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Hey. I read your reply. Thank you for responding. May I know which test series according to you are close enough to gmat exam? umm..manhattan or gmac official? (as gmatclub isn't accurate enough)

Thanks again.






In my experience, scores of multiple mock tests do not accurately gauge your test day score. So lowest of last five mock tests, reliable ones, should be kept as a minimum criteria.
I have not taken manhattan tests so I cannot comment on those.
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1. Gmat Official Mock Test - take once 1 week after your prep is complete
2. E-Gmat mock tests - verbal is good and very close to the real exam - quant is easier but questions are very wordy so a lot of time is wasted in the quant section
3. Expert Global Mock Test - these tests do not predict your score as accurately but the quality of questions these tests present are very really nice - you'll need to apply your brain as you'll need to in a typical GMAT question, except in their RCs, which at times may be lengthy and not very logical.

Writing multiple mocks makes one an efficient test taker, enabling them to manage their time efficiently in a test-environment.
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Hi AnandMan,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day didn't go as well as planned. When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. Before we discuss any of those potential issues though, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) What is your overall goal score?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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Hi AnandMan,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day didn't go as well as planned. When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. Before we discuss any of those potential issues though, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) What is your overall goal score?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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Hi EMPOWERgmatRichC,

It is really nice to interact with you, I have referred to some of the quant concepts from your course, during its free access, and particularly quant "Triage" was a very helpful test taking tactic which I applied in two questions in the real test and even got one of them, a question based on multiple sets, correct.

1) What study materials have you used so far - OG 13, 18, 19, 20, 21, Entire GmatPrep question bank and Entire EGMAT question bank with more than 70% average accuracy in overall practice
2) What is your overall goal score? - 700plus
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School and what Schools are you planning to apply to? already started planning applications for some Indian B-Schools, some European B-Schools and one B-School in Singapore (not mentioning schools' names because I dont want to give ideas to my potential competitors who might be reading this blog and then getting motivated to apply to those colleges with similar scores)

"I'll be happy to analyze it for you. " - Thank you very much - attached it here for you!
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Hi Anand,

I've sent you a PM with an analysis of your ESR and some additional notes.

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Hi AnandMan,

I’m sorry to hear how things went with your GMAT.

The good news is that you scored pretty well on quant, right? That said, I understand that you are not satisfied with your verbal score, so the question we need to ask is why you scored so high on your practice exams but lower on the real GMAT.

Assuming that you took your official practice exams under realistic testing conditions, the results show that, on a good day, you are capable of scoring higher than V33. Thus, it’s quite possible that nerves, stress, tiredness, or a combination of all three negatively affected your test-day performance. However, it’s also possible that you have some lingering weaknesses that were exposed on test day. Although I’m unsure of how you prepared, it’s possible that, in your preparation, particularly in verbal, you did not really learn to do what you have to do in order to score high on the actual GMAT. Rather, you picked up on some patterns that were effective in getting you relatively high scores on practice tests. So, for you to hit your score goal, your preparation, particularly for verbal, probably needs to be more complete, meaning that you have to go through the various types of GMAT questions carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills.

For verbal specifically, you have to become more skilled at clearly defining the differences between trap choices and correct answers. Otherwise, you will get stuck guessing between two choices or be surprised to find that you incorrectly answered questions that you thought you answered correctly. Becoming more skilled in this way takes carefully analyzing all of the answer choices to lots of verbal questions to develop an eye for the logical differences between the choices. In other words, you have to go beyond answering practice questions and reading explanations to doing deep analysis of questions to learn to see everything that is going on in them.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant and verbal materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

You also may find it helpful to read the following articles:

how to score a 700+ on the GMAT

Why Was My GMAT Score Lower Than My Practice Test Scores?
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Hi AnandMan,

I’m sorry to hear how things went with your GMAT.

The good news is that you scored pretty well on quant, right? That said, I understand that you are not satisfied with your verbal score, so the question we need to ask is why you scored so high on your practice exams but lower on the real GMAT.

Assuming that you took your official practice exams under realistic testing conditions, the results show that, on a good day, you are capable of scoring higher than V33. Thus, it’s quite possible that nerves, stress, tiredness, or a combination of all three negatively affected your test-day performance. However, it’s also possible that you have some lingering weaknesses that were exposed on test day. Although I’m unsure of how you prepared, it’s possible that, in your preparation, particularly in verbal, you did not really learn to do what you have to do in order to score high on the actual GMAT. Rather, you picked up on some patterns that were effective in getting you relatively high scores on practice tests. So, for you to hit your score goal, your preparation, particularly for verbal, probably needs to be more complete, meaning that you have to go through the various types of GMAT questions carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills.

For verbal specifically, you have to become more skilled at clearly defining the differences between trap choices and correct answers. Otherwise, you will get stuck guessing between two choices or be surprised to find that you incorrectly answered questions that you thought you answered correctly. Becoming more skilled in this way takes carefully analyzing all of the answer choices to lots of verbal questions to develop an eye for the logical differences between the choices. In other words, you have to go beyond answering practice questions and reading explanations to doing deep analysis of questions to learn to see everything that is going on in them.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant and verbal materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

You also may find it helpful to read the following articles:

how to score a 700+ on the GMAT

Why Was My GMAT Score Lower Than My Practice Test Scores?


Hi ScottTargetTestPrep, thank you for your analysis of my score and for your suggestions regarding the ways to improve the verbal score, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I have, in fact, run out of available official practice questions and am looking for reliable, close to gmat style, verbal RCs and other questions, it will be great if you suggest some authentic sources.

Thanks!
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GMAT in-center exam date: 11-Sep-2020.
Score: 660 (Q48, V33) - what a shock to see a figure starting with 6xx, after believing that your test went exceptionally well and better than all the previous mock tests!

Mock Test Serial no#, Date, Source & Scores:

[All the dates are for the year 2020]

1- 29 Jul Gmat Prep Mock 1 - 680 (V31,Q50) [Encountered around 15 previously practiced questions]
2- 31 Jul E-Gmat Mock 1 - 600 (Q38,V34)
3- 24 Aug Gmat Prep Mock 2 - 700 (V34,Q50) [Encountered around 15 previously practiced questions]
4- 24 Aug E-Gmat Mock 2 - 610 (Q42,V32)
5- 28 Aug E-Gmat Mock 3 - 670 (Q49,V32)
6- 29 Aug E-Gmat Mock 4 - 640 (Q43,V34)
7- 30 Aug Kaplan-Free Mock 1 - 700 (Q47, V39)
8- 03 Sep Gmat Prep Mock 2 - Reset - 750(V44,Q49) [Encountered around 8 previously practiced questions]
9- 04 Sep E-Gmat Mock 5 - 680 (Q44,V39) [Encountered series of Hard quant questions in a row even when had marked many wrong in between]
10- 04 Sep Experts Global Mock 1- 620 (Q44,V32)
11- 05 Sep Gmat Official Mock 5 - 750 (Q49,V42) [Encountered around 2 previously practiced questions]
12- 05 Sep Experts Global Mock 2 - 720 (Q49,V38)
13- 06 Sep Experts Global Mock 3 - 700 (Q46,V40)
14- 06 Sep Gmat Official Mock 6 - 640 (Q43,V36) [No previously encountered questions]
15- 07 Sep Gmat Official Mock 3 - 710 (Q49,V39) [No previously encountered questions]
16- 08 Sep Experts Global Mock 4 - 660 (Q48,V32)
17- 08 Sep Experts Global Mock 5 - 670 (Q50,V30)
18- 09 Sep Experts Global Mock 6 - 700 (Q50,V34)
19- 10 Sep Experts Global Mock 7 - 740 (Q48,V43)

[One official mock test (#4) is unused and saved for the next attempt]


I purchased the courses and study materials from multiple reputed sources and, having studied for more than 6 hours everyday in the last 90 days, learnt all the basics, but I feel somehow I struggle in application. Primarily in verbal, while practicing, my accuracy in SC is about 85% in medium & 70% in hard questions but in RC & CR it is about 60% overall. So during the tests, which involve understanding the intended meaning in the most crystal clear way possible in just one careful and quick read, I struggle because I tend to re-read the wordy CR & RC passages & questions multiple times, not gathering more than 75% of the inference.

Tough my basics are so clear and strong that I can teach the entire GAMT grammar, except some idioms, CR and, Quant concepts to a newbie Gmat student, but, still, I struggle at application in the tests, being pressed for time.
[yes I have used "being" in the modifier and yes it is correct]


Now I am planning to retake the exam in about 20-25 days :shh:

I also think giving so many tests at such intervals is not healthy. Mental burn/fatigue is real. That also could have played a role on the D Day. I see a mock test almost every day and some days you have 2 tests! I would never suggest such a hectic mock test schedule. I think thats also why you see such a huge variation in scores. I would suggest take a test once a week or once a fortnight. Whats more important is to learn what you are doing wrong in those mock tests.

I never tried these many tests, but I was trying to cram up way too much by putting long study hours before my first attempt and tired myself one night before the real test by taking a full blown Expert Global test. On the D Day I was feeling tired and I scored less that what I had hoped. After that I took the second GMAT test after exactly 2 months and between these two GMATs, I gave 3 mock tests only. Focus was more on correcting what I am consistently getting wrong. That helped a lot and finally Second attempt came out well.
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Hi divakarns,

Thanks for your feedback!

I have run out of Official RCs and I think that I still need some good RC practice, can you suggest any good and reliable source?
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Hi AnandMan - I didnt practice that much for RCs, thanks to a good reading habit. I also didn't use too many resources outside Gmatclub for my preparation.

Here is a link of RCs based on the topics. I struggled with Humanities and Social Science related topics for which I practiced RCs from this link.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/reading-comp ... 29341.html


There are similar links for PS, DS, CR and SC as well which I used extensively. You can check out this link to find those.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-ps-ques ... 27957.html


You can also see my preparation details and whole experience here -

https://gmatclub.com/forum/no-og-almost ... l#p2622156

Hope it helps!
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Hi AnandMan,

I’m sorry to hear how things went with your GMAT.

The good news is that you scored pretty well on quant, right? That said, I understand that you are not satisfied with your verbal score, so the question we need to ask is why you scored so high on your practice exams but lower on the real GMAT.

Assuming that you took your official practice exams under realistic testing conditions, the results show that, on a good day, you are capable of scoring higher than V33. Thus, it’s quite possible that nerves, stress, tiredness, or a combination of all three negatively affected your test-day performance. However, it’s also possible that you have some lingering weaknesses that were exposed on test day. Although I’m unsure of how you prepared, it’s possible that, in your preparation, particularly in verbal, you did not really learn to do what you have to do in order to score high on the actual GMAT. Rather, you picked up on some patterns that were effective in getting you relatively high scores on practice tests. So, for you to hit your score goal, your preparation, particularly for verbal, probably needs to be more complete, meaning that you have to go through the various types of GMAT questions carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills.

For verbal specifically, you have to become more skilled at clearly defining the differences between trap choices and correct answers. Otherwise, you will get stuck guessing between two choices or be surprised to find that you incorrectly answered questions that you thought you answered correctly. Becoming more skilled in this way takes carefully analyzing all of the answer choices to lots of verbal questions to develop an eye for the logical differences between the choices. In other words, you have to go beyond answering practice questions and reading explanations to doing deep analysis of questions to learn to see everything that is going on in them.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant and verbal materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

You also may find it helpful to read the following articles:

how to score a 700+ on the GMAT

Why Was My GMAT Score Lower Than My Practice Test Scores?


Hi ScottTargetTestPrep, thank you for your analysis of my score and for your suggestions regarding the ways to improve the verbal score, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I have, in fact, run out of available official practice questions and am looking for reliable, close to gmat style, verbal RCs and other questions, it will be great if you suggest some authentic sources.

Thanks!

You are looking to practice RC or all GMAT verbal questions?
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Primarily in verbal, while practicing, my accuracy in SC is about 85% in medium & 70% in hard questions but in RC & CR it is about 60% overall.
Hi Anand, curiously your ESR shows a completely different picture: your accuracy in SC is the lowest, while the accuracy in CR and RC is considerably better!
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Hi Experts, I have updated the post, kindly have a look and suggest me what should I do next...
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Hi AnandMan - I didnt practice that much for RCs, thanks to a good reading habit. I also didn't use too many resources outside Gmatclub for my preparation.

Here is a link of RCs based on the topics. I struggled with Humanities and Social Science related topics for which I practiced RCs from this link.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/reading-comp ... 29341.html


There are similar links for PS, DS, CR and SC as well which I used extensively. You can check out this link to find those.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-ps-ques ... 27957.html


You can also see my preparation details and whole experience here -

https://gmatclub.com/forum/no-og-almost ... l#p2622156

Hope it helps!

@divarkns, which b schools are you targeting and what industry?
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Hi GMATaxe001

I am applying only for 1 year MBAs. So far I have applied at 4, rejected from 2 (Cambridge and Oxford), got interview invite for 1 (Cornell) and one is under review (INSEAD).

From industry perspective, either consulting in related field like Logistics and Distribution or Would look for SCM related positions in Industries.
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I am looking at similar field. Consulting or supply chain. Lets stay connected

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Hi AnandMan I was wondering if you took a 3rd attempt yet and if so how it went? Im in a similar positon having taken two attempts (670 and 660) except quant is my weaknesses
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Hi, my experience of EG mock tests is the same as described in the post. Below are my scores:

    Test No Test Date Score Quants Verbal IR
    10 06.09.2020 700 49 35 3
    11 11.09.2020 690 49 34 5
    12 13.09.2020 720 50 36 7
    13 14.09.2020 750 50 41 1
    14 15.09.2020 760 50 42 6

I was sure that that i will definitely get a 700+ in the actual exam. But to my surprise I got a 580 48/21/4.

I will write the details about my experience/strategy/time spent/strengths/weakness in a matter of time.
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