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The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels.

A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels
B) with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
C) ultimately with the goal to reduce expressions of overall dissatisfaction by the guests with the hotel service
D) in an ultimate attempt to reduce the number of guests that ends up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
E) with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

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Here is my reasoning:

A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels -> The number of guests can be reduced. The guests themselves cannot be reduced. On a funny note, you cannot really reduce their height or something :D So, eliminate.

B) with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service -> Incorrect modifier 'ultimately'. This modifier should modify 'goal' and not 'reduce'. So, eliminate.

C) ultimately with the goal to reduce expressions of overall dissatisfaction by the guests with the hotel service -> 'goal to reduce expressions' totally distorts the meaning. So, eliminate.

D) in an ultimate attempt to reduce the number of guests that ends up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service -> 'that' cannot be used to refer to people (i.e. guests). So, eliminate.

E) with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service -> By POE, this is the right answer. Though I am not very convinced about the usage of 'with' here. Going by the rule, 'with' should modify resorts here. Resorts don't have any ultimate goal.

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Here is my reasoning:

A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels -> The number of guests can be reduced. The guests themselves cannot be reduced. On a funny note, you cannot really reduce their height or something :D So, eliminate.

B) with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service -> Incorrect modifier 'ultimately'. This modifier should modify 'goal' and not 'reduce'. So, eliminate.

C) ultimately with the goal to reduce expressions of overall dissatisfaction by the guests with the hotel service -> 'goal to reduce expressions' totally distorts the meaning. So, eliminate.

D) in an ultimate attempt to reduce the number of guests that ends up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service -> 'that' cannot be used to refer to people (i.e. guests). So, eliminate.

E) with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service -> By POE, this is the right answer. Though I am not very convinced about the usage of 'with' here. Going by the rule, 'with' should modify resorts here. Resorts don't have any ultimate goal.

The goal is not of the resort but of the tourism commission. With is correct

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16 Jun 2016, 04:33
Doesn't 'with' refer to the nearest noun?

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Got this one correct....My line of reasoning

First scan of the original sentence as it is A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels

reducing the number of guests rather than reducing the guests. Next who end up expressing...leads to unnecessary verb+ing form........the last phrase with the service in the hotels....sounds unnecessary wordy and can be more concise

reducing the number of guests rather than reducing the guests - remains B, D, E

expressing in B - eliminates B

Between D and E, the construction of D is weird

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16 Jun 2016, 07:56
I believe with is modifying the entire clause.. the tourism commission has conducted a survey, with the goal.. can someone verify this for me?

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The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels.

A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels
B) with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
C) ultimately with the goal to reduce expressions of overall dissatisfaction by the guests with the hotel service
D) in an ultimate attempt to reduce the number of guests that ends up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
E) with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

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23 Jun 2016, 08:13
I believe with is modifying the entire clause.. the tourism commission has conducted a survey, with the goal.. can someone verify this for me?

I think here it is acting as adverbial modifier , why tourism conducted survey. " with the goal " .

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The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels.

A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels
B) with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
C) ultimately with the goal to reduce expressions of overall dissatisfaction by the guests with the hotel service
D) in an ultimate attempt to reduce the number of guests that ends up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
E) with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

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The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service.

Survey of hotels is conducted to reduce the number of guests expressing dissatisfaction with the hotels service...

Hello, will be helpful if any one could elaborate reasoning of elimination. I get confused between to reduce and of reducing. Is there any logic which one to chose ? also btw ultimately and with the goal, which one to chose and why ? any help in it would be appreciated. Thanks

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23 Jun 2016, 08:47
The issue is in "reducing the hotel guests" as opposed to "reducing the number of hotel guests". Answer choice E fixes the problem without introducing new ones.

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26 Jul 2016, 11:36
Hi Experts,

I wish to understand what's wrong in option B compared to E.

(B) The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

(E) The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

Scientists have solved many puzzles of nature, with the goal to understand the earth better
Scientists have solved many puzzles of nature, with the goal of understanding the earth better

I think the former makes more sense because "to" has an intention connotation that is lacking in "for verb-ing". Or, is there a problem with "ultimate" in the above sentence?

"who express" is, of course, much cleaner than "who end up expressing"

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26 Jul 2016, 11:56
E clears the actual accurate intention by stating ultimate than ultimately
In B it is more of for the heck of it

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I wish to understand what's wrong in option B compared to E.

(B) The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

(E) The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

Scientists have solved many puzzles of nature, with the goal to understand the earth better
Scientists have solved many puzzles of nature, with the goal of understanding the earth better

I think the former makes more sense because "to" has an intention connotation that is lacking in "for verb-ing". Or, is there a problem with "ultimate" in the above sentence?

"who express" is, of course, much cleaner than "who end up expressing"

The goal is not to ultimately reduce the numbers. It would be better if the commission could reduce the numbers now than if it reduces "ultimately". However the goal itself is ultimate (i.e. the final goal). Therefore placement of ultimately is wrong in option B.

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Isn't the option E conveying that there is a category of guests who express dissatisfaction, guests who end up expressing seems better but unfortunately other options also contain errors .

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Hi Experts,

I wish to understand what's wrong in option B compared to E.

(B) The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

(E) The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

Scientists have solved many puzzles of nature, with the goal to understand the earth better
Scientists have solved many puzzles of nature, with the goal of understanding the earth better

I think the former makes more sense because "to" has an intention connotation that is lacking in "for verb-ing". Or, is there a problem with "ultimate" in the above sentence?

"who express" is, of course, much cleaner than "who end up expressing"

"Ultimately" in B is redundant; you would use this word only if there were some other attempts which failed.

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Isn't the option E conveying that there is a category of guests who express dissatisfaction, guests who end up expressing seems better but unfortunately other options also contain errors .

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In either case, without a comma, the relative clause modifier categorizes the noun it modifies - the modifier is an essential modifier. Thus both the options C and E categorizes "guests". For example:

I hate men who talk a lot. ... Meaning: There are 100 men, out of them I hate only those 30 men who talk a lot. (categorizes men)
I hate men, who talk a lot.... Meaning: I hate all 100 men, and all the 100 men talk a lot ("who talk a lot" is just an additional information about "men" - no categorization here).

In this question it is required to use an essential modifier (one without comma), since the number of only those guests who express dissatisfaction needs to be reduced. Option C and E both are alright in that respect.

I hope that I understood your query correctly.

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Isn't the option E conveying that there is a category of guests who express dissatisfaction, guests who end up expressing seems better but unfortunately other options also contain errors .

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In either case, without a comma, the relative clause modifier categorizes the noun it modifies - the modifier is an essential modifier. Thus both the options C and E categorizes "guests". For example:

I hate men who talk a lot. ... Meaning: There are 100 men, out of them I hate only those 30 men who talk a lot. (categorizes men)
I hate men, who talk a lot.... Meaning: I hate all 100 men, and all the 100 men talk a lot ("who talk a lot" is just an additional information about "men" - no categorization here).

In this question it is required to use an essential modifier (one without comma), since the number of only those guests who express dissatisfaction needs to be reduced. Option C and E both are alright in that respect.

I hope that I understood your query correctly.

Can you give explanation to individual options:

I removed all the options starting with " with". since we cannot have infinitives or gerund in the prepositional phrase. its better to make a full sentence.

I selected option D, even though the usage of that seemed dicey.

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The tourism commission has conducted surveys of hotels in the most popular resorts, with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels.

A) with the ultimate goal of reducing the guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the service in the hotels
B) with the goal to ultimately reduce the number of guests who end up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
C) ultimately with the goal to reduce expressions of overall dissatisfaction by the guests with the hotel service
D) in an ultimate attempt to reduce the number of guests that ends up expressing overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service
E) with the ultimate goal of reducing the number of guests who express overall dissatisfaction with the hotels’ service

Placement of the modifiers in (A) and (B) is not perfect (guest who end up expressing..)
Placement of ultimately is (C) is wrong (furthermore the adverb is not neededI
Wrong modifier in (D). (Guests that)

Left with (E). (E) does not repeat any of these mistakes. Therefore (E) is the correct answer.

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In A, reducing the guests implying the GUESTS are to be made smaller in size.
This meaning is nonsensical.
Eliminate A.

Generally, an infinitive modifier serves to express INTENT.
B and C: with the goal to reduce
Here, the infinite modifier in red implies that the goal is intended TO REDUCE something.
This meaning is nonsensical: a goal cannot be used to reduce something.
Eliminate B and C.

D: the number...that ends up ends up expressing dissatisfaction
Here, the portions in red imply that an actual number -- 100, 1000, etc. -- is EXPRESSING dissatisfaction.
This meaning is nonsensical.
Eliminate D.

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Is 'goal of reducing' idiomatic? Iv learnt that goal is to verb, goal is of noun - these forms are correct. Can Experts please help here?

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