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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

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A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

I don't love the sound of this answer choice, but SC isn't ever about sound, so... whatever.

The "it" is perfect here. What are the singular nouns that precede "it"? "A language" is the only reasonable option -- and that makes perfect sense. "Those" generally works better with an antecedent of some sort, but it's basically just a synonym for "people" here, and that's acceptable. Keep (A).

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B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

"Them" is confusing: does it refer to "dialects", "sub-languages," or all the way back to "languages" at the beginning of the sentence? I also can't figure out why we would want to conjoin these phrases with "with" -- that doesn't make much sense. (A) is much better, so (B) is out.

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C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

I'm cool with the first "it", but the second "it" doesn't work: "those who have tried counting the language..."? We're trying to count languages, and that needs to be plural. Eliminate (C).

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D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

Same problem with "them" as in answer choice (B). Plus, I don't see any good reason to use past tense here. The use of present perfect in (A) makes more sense, since people have presumably attempted to count languages in the past, and continue to do so in the present. (D) is gone.

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E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

Just a hybrid of the worst elements of (B) and (C). (E) is out, and (A) is correct.
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A, the pronoun IT near dialects refers to Language and its the correct usage since language is singular

Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding - them usage is incorrect

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find - the sentence is best described in A here it is shown in present tense

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found incorrect idiom distinguish between X and Y - correct idiom

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding incorrect idiom distinguish between X and Y - correct idiom

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Will go for the original statement, nothing wrong with it..

IMHO (A)

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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

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'Language' is singular so we require 'it'. Any sentence with them is OUT. => B, D, E are OUT.
Between A & C.
C - Changes the tense + what is 'it' referring to? OUT.

A is the answer.
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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found
CORRECT

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding
Use of plural pronoun THEM for singular antecedent LANGUAGE is incorrect. Use of WITH leads to Run-on. Moreover, use of present continuous FINDING for a past event is incorrect. Hence Incorrect.

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find
Use of singular pronoun IT for plural antecedents " sub-languages or dialects" is incorrect. Moreover, use of simple present FIND for a past event is incorrect. Hence Incorrect.

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found
Use of plural pronoun THEM (1st use of THEM) for singular antecedent LANGUAGE is incorrect. Antecedent of 2nd THEM in the sentence is ambiguous. Hence Incorrect.

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding
Use of plural pronoun THEM for singular antecedent LANGUAGE is incorrect. Use of WITH leads to Run-on. Moreover, use of present continuous FINDING for a past event is incorrect. Hence Incorrect.
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IMO A

D & E have not idiomatic
B - use of them is not correct
C - Not the rite tense

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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding


D& E are out : distinguishing between X and Y , distinguishing between X or Y

B is out : 'with those who have tried counting typically finding' modifies 'them' . which distorts meaning and also the meaning of the sentence requires a contrast 'but'

C is out : but those who have tried counting it typically find
Experts pls comment on my understanding


one confusion : what is antecedent of pronoun 'Those" ?

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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding


D& E are out : distinguishing between X and Y , distinguishing between X or Y

B is out : 'with those who have tried counting typically finding' modifies 'them' . which distorts meaning and also the meaning of the sentence requires a contrast 'but'

C is out : but those who have tried counting it typically find
Experts pls comment on my understanding


one confusion : what is antecedent of pronoun 'Those" ?


'Those' is used as a demonstrative pronoun basically meaning it does not require an antecedent and can be used on it's own.
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Hi GMATNinja

I have a query regarding they vs them after viewing your youtube video for pronouns.

In the video, here is sample sentence:
Whenever I go to the post office, they overcharge me for stamps.
Here, you discarded the sentence since they should ideally refers to plural
antecedent ie people at post office,but there is no mention of people in sentence.

Using similar logic in this OG, why did you keep (A) as acceptable in spite of no people being
mentioned anywhere. If those can be understood in this OG, then why they can't be
understood in your example.

Aren't both those and they referring to people?

It seems that they can very well acts as subject:
They are playing correct

but those needs to be followed by a noun:
those people are running correct
those do not catch fire incorrect, those is not followed by noun
those matchsticks do not catch fire correct, those is followed by noun
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Nobody knows exactly how many languages there are in the world, partly because of the difficulty of distinguishing between a language and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found about five thousand.

A. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried to count typically have found

B. and the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried counting typically finding

C. and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting it typically find

D. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, but those who tried to count them typically found

E. or the sub-languages or dialects within them, with those who have tried to count typically finding

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'Language' is singular so we require 'it'. Any sentence with them is OUT. => B, D, E are OUT.
Between A & C.
C - Changes the tense + what is 'it' referring to? OUT.

A is the answer.



What if option C uses 'them' in place of 'it' in the second part, will it be correct?
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What if option C uses 'them' in place of 'it' in the second part, will it be correct?
and the sub-languages or dialects within it, but those who have tried counting them typically find



Hello Selfmotivated,

I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)


Even if we change the singular pronoun it to plural pronoun them, Choice C will continue to remain incorrect because of the phrase tried counting.

Colloquially, tried counting may sound okay. However, this expression is not considered idiomatic on GMAT SC. The phrase tried to count is an idiomatic phrase.


Hope this helps. :-)
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