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With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating the economy.

A. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating

B. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try and stimulate

C. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives trying to stimulate

D. the stock market and with the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives that will try to stimulate

E. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try to stimulate

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I have a query pertaining to option D. "the president announced...." isn't this a subjunctive mood, hence "that" should be used.
While I agree option E makes more grammatical sense but need to understand the role of subjunctive.

The subjunctive mood is used when the verb indicates a desire, intention, command, recommendation request, resolution, or advice. It is also used along with such words as advisable, better, desirable, and directive, essential, fitting, imperative, important, necessary, urge, urgent and vital.
Three things essential for the use of the command subjunctive mood is the mandatoriness of the situation wherein somebody gives a command and others have the need to follow it compulsorily. The command is always indicated in a relative clause starting with 'that ' and most importantly, the command is expressed through verb in a forthright base form of the verb called the bare infinitive.
EX: The court directed that the owner of the car pay the accident victim a sum of ten thousand rupees

directed: - The mandatory word.
that - the relative clause connector
pay -the bare infinitive.

1. In the given context, an announcement is not part of the mandatory word-list.
2. will try is not a bare infinitive.
3. The president is not commanding the economy to behave.
Therefore, no subjunctive mood is involved.
The take away: All command subjunctives will use 'that', but not all those, which use 'that', are subjunctives
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With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating the economy.

A. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating

B. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try and stimulate

C. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives trying to stimulate

D. the stock market and with the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives that will try to stimulate

E. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try to stimulate
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With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating the economy.

A. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating ---- to stimulate is the core intent, to try is not -- wrong
B. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try and stimulate -- separating the trying from the main intent is wrong.

C. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives trying to stimulate --looks as if the initiatives are trying rather than the President

D. the stock market and with the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives that will try to stimulate -- same error as in C.

E. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try to stimulate -- the infinitives to try to stimulate is the best option available to expose the President's intent.

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19 Jul 2017, 04:29
Isn't "among his constituents" common to both the "stock market" and "the approval" in E?
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Isn't "among his constituents" common to both the "stock market" and "the approval" in E?

You may take either way:
1. (the stock market) and (the approval ratings) among his constituents - here "among his constituents " is OUTSIDE the parallel structure X and Y and hence applies to both X and Y.

2. (the stock market) and (the approval ratings among his constituents) - here "among his constituents " is INSIDE the parallel structure X and Y and hence applies only to Y.

This is one problem with the parallel structure X and Y - since the start and the end of the structure is not defined, often multiple meanings are possible. (Such problems do not arise with parallel structures with two corordinating words, e,g, not only X... but also Y, not X... but Y etc. - in these cases the start and the end are clearly defined.)
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19 Jul 2017, 05:51
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rekhabishop wrote:
Isn't "among his constituents" common to both the "stock market" and "the approval" in E?

You may take either way:
1. (the stock market) and (the approval ratings) among his constituents - here "among his constituents " is OUTSIDE the parallel structure X and Y and hence applies to both X and Y.

2. (the stock market) and (the approval ratings among his constituents) - here "among his constituents " is INSIDE the parallel structure X and Y and hence applies only to Y.

This is one problem with the parallel structure X and Y - since the start and the end of the structure is not defined, often multiple meanings are possible. (Such problems do not arise with parallel structres with two corordinating words, e,g, not only X... but also Y, not X... but Y etc. - in these cases the start and the end are clearly defined.)

Is this a genuine GMAT like question?
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23 Jul 2017, 00:53
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With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating the economy.

A. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating ---- to stimulate is the core intent, to try is not -- wrong
B. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try and stimulate -- separating the trying from the main intent is wrong.

C. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives trying to stimulate --looks as if the initiatives are trying rather than the President

D. the stock market and with the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives that will try to stimulate -- same error as in C.

E. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try to stimulate -- the infinitives to try to stimulate is the best option available to expose the President's intent.

Hi daagh

I have a query pertaining to option D. "the president announced...." isn't this a subjunctive mood, hence "that" should be used.
While I agree option E makes more grammatical sense but need to understand the role of subjunctive.
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daagh wrote:
niks wrote
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I have a query pertaining to option D. "the president announced...." isn't this a subjunctive mood, hence "that" should be used.
While I agree option E makes more grammatical sense but need to understand the role of subjunctive.

The subjunctive mood is used when the verb indicates a desire, intention, command, recommendation request, resolution, or advice. It is also used along with such words as advisable, better, desirable, and directive, essential, fitting, imperative, important, necessary, urge, urgent and vital.
Three things essential for the use of the command subjunctive mood is the mandatoriness of the situation wherein somebody gives a command and others have the need to follow it compulsorily. The command is always indicated in a relative clause starting with 'that ' and most importantly, the command is expressed through verb in a forthright base form of the verb called the bare infinitive.
EX: The court directed that the owner of the car pay the accident victim a sum of ten thousand rupees

directed: - The mandatory word.
that - the relative clause connector
pay -the bare infinitive.

1. In the given context, an announcement is not part of the mandatory word-list.
2. will try is not a bare infinitive.
3. The president is not commanding the economy to behave.
Therefore, no subjunctive mood is involved.
The take away: All command subjunctives will use 'that', but not all those, which use 'that', are subjunctives

Thanks daagh for such a detailed and prompt response. Really appreciate your efforts.
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Hi All,

I have one question, all the answer choices has "With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly" = "Preposition + noun + participle",which is not preferred in GMAT.

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With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating the economy.

A. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating

B. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try and stimulate

C. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives trying to stimulate

D. the stock market and with the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives that will try to stimulate

E. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try to stimulate

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daagh wrote:
With the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating the economy.

A. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try stimulating ---- to stimulate is the core intent, to try is not -- wrong
B. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try and stimulate -- separating the trying from the main intent is wrong.

C. the approval ratings among his constituents and the stock market dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives trying to stimulate --looks as if the initiatives are trying rather than the President

D. the stock market and with the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives that will try to stimulate -- same error as in C.

E. the stock market and the approval ratings among his constituents dropping rapidly, the president announced a series of spending initiatives to try to stimulate -- the infinitives to try to stimulate is the best option available to expose the President's intent.

daagh sir

I have a small doubt

1. When participle-ing modifiers follow a comma, they modify the entire preceding clause and in particular the subject.
2. When participle-ing modifiers don't have a comma before as in option A of this question, then they modify the word before

Is this correct?
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GDT,

if there is no comma before the participle, then it may modify not the word before all the time. Some time the touching word may not be a noun at all. However commaless verbing modifiers are only adjectival modifiers meaning that they can only modify a noun, maybe in front or even a little away but Logic must accept that kind of jumping.

Example: Jonn joined Microsoft hoping that he would become its CEO asap: There is no comma before hoping. If someone insists that as per rule only Microsoft is hoping, then there is nothing more absurd than that. Therefore logically hoping should modify only John, even though it is far away.
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