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Calling All Kellogg MBA Applicants(2018 Intake) Class of 2020!

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http://unclearadmit.tumblr.com/post/377 ... licy-sucks

What Did I Do? (Believe in taking action towards solving the problem for the larger populace, not just writing about issues)

- When I got my waiver, I was perplexed. I sent an email. Got the usual - cannot tell when interviews will be assigned, you may get a phone interview, you may not request for an interview, doesn’t have a bearing on your application, etc.

- I called the admissions office (not the interview scheduling/coordination office - they are different, or atleast the latter is a subset of the former) last week. The lady who answered seemed very confused as to how come despite being a reapplicant who had asked for another interview, and having improved my profile considerably (she asked me you must have shown improvements and I said yes GMAT, double promotion blah blah), I haven’t received my interview invite. She put me on hold, spoke to a colleague, and when she came back said why don’t you speak to the interview scheduler as it may happen that your file somehow got mixed up somewhere. I couldnt believe what she just said!

- I sent another email (the person didn’t answer my call when the admissions office transferred my call). Got the usual - cannot tell when interviews will be assigned, you may get a phone interview, you may not request for an interview, doesn’t have a bearing on your application, etc.

- Eventually, I left an email saying that my email should not be seen as me venting anger. However, here are a few suggestions (eg: rewording the waiver language) that will help anxious applicants like me in the future.

My email wasn’t acknowledged.

Its unfortunate that this issue isn’t highlighted more prominently. EssaySnark wrote about why Columbia B School’s app is unfriendly and how it should be improved. The post was well received. Sadly, EssaySnark, or others like them, aren’t too well versed with the problem I have highlighted above as it has mostly to do with international applicants - within that also mostly Indians and Chinese applicants.
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And look here. The same complaint. From someone else.
Notice the admission office's reply "you may not request for an interview...doesn't have a bearing on your application...etc"
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Actually to quote from the last email I got,
"if a Skype interview is helpful in rendering a decision, we will contact for a Skype interview"
it's not "if a Skype interview is deemed helpful in reaching an acceptance decision".


I read that to clearly mean that if you are a competitive applicant than they will interview you because the Skype interview will then help in making their decision.

If you are not a competitive applicant, then it does not matter how good your interview goes. You’ll not be admitted. In that case, they will not interview you since the Skype interview would not be helpful in their decision (it’s a no regardless).

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Changing the topic......
At what time result will be out on 28th? Do international candidates get calls or is it just updated on portal?


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Changing the topic......
At what time result will be out on 28th? Do international candidates get calls or is it just updated on portal?


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Good question!

I imagine I will be compulsively checking the site the entire day regardless what time they are expected to come out. Unfortunately, I had to get a new cellphone number recently so the one that I provided on my application is no longer valid. Could this be a problem? I know that they reach out by phone if admitted, but figure that I will also get an update through email and the portal. Or should I send Kellogg an email informing them of the change?

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I think a lot of this confusion can be remedied by simply understanding Kellogg's unique approach and the philosophy of the late Dean Don Jacobs. There was a time when no MBA applicants at any schools were interviewed. Dean Jacobs changed that by making an interview not only a necessary precondition for acceptance, but offering any and everyone an interview. From a Poets & Quants profile after his death:

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When all was said and done, Jacobs believes that interviewing all the applicants to the Kellogg School was the key to breaking into the top ranks. Why? Because in those years there were widespread complaints from companies about the inability of MBAs to work well with others. No one doubted the technical abilities of MBAs to crunch numbers, analyze competitors, or plot strategy. But it was widely believed that the interpersonnal skills so necessary for success in business were lacking. Assessing those skills with face-to-face interviews allowed Kellogg to sort out candidates who were far more likely to work well with others, who were highly articulate, and who didn’t have a chip on their shoulder. It addressed the dirty little secret of MBA education: that student selection, more than faculty or curriculum, accounts for the ultimate quality and reputation of any school.


Of course, now, all schools interview their admitted students, but Kellogg was the first and does so as part of a broader philosophy. Understanding this should clear up some confusion about the necessity of an interview.
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Back in the days (close to a decade ago) when I was applying to colleges, only top 10-ish schools conduct interviews. And, they only interviewed borderline candidates. So not receiving an interview could mean you’re a top candidate, or you’re in the hopeless pile. Even now, lots of grad schools like law schools don’t do any interview. So you’re completely in the dark.

I personally think the MBA process is way clearer and in a way, personal. However, it is always a crapshoot applying to any top-10 schools so it’s best not to interpret/imply any communications at all. (But I failed to do so with the brunch/dinner invite..)

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Changing the topic......
At what time result will be out on 28th? Do international candidates get calls or is it just updated on portal?


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Good question!

I imagine I will be compulsively checking the site the entire day regardless what time they are expected to come out. Unfortunately, I had to get a new cellphone number recently so the one that I provided on my application is no longer valid. Could this be a problem? I know that they reach out by phone if admitted, but figure that I will also get an update through email and the portal. Or should I send Kellogg an email informing them of the change?

Thanks


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@sprinni - don't ditch Ross for Kellogg!!! I already lost a friend in FuturePM91


Whaaaaa????? I thought we were still friends!


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I am guessing everyone today got another mass email from Kellogg titled "The world is your classroom"? Needless to say, my heart beat spiked for a second when I saw the sender's name.
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I am guessing everyone today got another mass email from Kellogg titled "The world is your classroom"? Needless to say, my heart beat spiked for a second when I saw the sender's name.

Yes I got it and my heart also skipped a beat :lol:
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@sprinni - don't ditch Ross for Kellogg!!! I already lost a friend in FuturePM91


Whaaaaa????? I thought we were still friends!


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We are not the kind of friends who would have a weekly brunch binge at Zingerman’s at A2. Sigh.

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Changing the topic......
At what time result will be out on 28th? Do international candidates get calls or is it just updated on portal?


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Kellogg calls all admitted folks and if they can’t reach you, they’ll leave you a voicemail. You’ll also get an email confirming your admit later in the day.

Adcom usually call intnl folks in Asia/Australia/Europe before calling up folks in North America.

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Would you all mind arguing about something again? I could use the entertainment to pass the time until Wednesday.
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Would you all mind arguing about something again? I could use the entertainment to pass the time until Wednesday.


I know...

Do you know, If all the calls/ mails on Wed only? Nothing to expect Monday/Tuesday?

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Would you all mind arguing about something again? I could use the entertainment to pass the time until Wednesday.


Best thing I have seen in a while. Have you tried watching the office?

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Would you all mind arguing about something again? I could use the entertainment to pass the time until Wednesday.
Lol. Funny! I usually spend my time watching series. I didn't know I have wasted more than 90 hours watching LOST as of now!

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Would you all mind arguing about something again? I could use the entertainment to pass the time until Wednesday.


I know...

Do you know, If all the calls/ mails on Wed only? Nothing to expect Monday/Tuesday?

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All the calls/ email only on Wednesday. Nothing on Monday and Tuesday!

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Would you all mind arguing about something again? I could use the entertainment to pass the time until Wednesday.

Any idea how much importance the interviews hold? If the Adcom says that would love to have you in the class, do they usually go ahead and select you or are these sort of sentences told to a lot of candidates?
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Hi all! All the best for the results. :) Hoping to hear some positive news.

I'm guessing calls are expected one day early i.e. 27th?
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