NEW HERE? LEARN MORE
closeclose
Last visit was: 24 Apr 2024, 21:40 It is currently 24 Apr 2024, 21:40
Decision Tracker
My Rewards
New posts
New comers' posts

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Go to My Error Log Learn more
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel

Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral]

 1   2   

KF vs Kelley

You may select 1 option
View results
Tags:
Find Similar Topics  Add a Tag
Show Tags
Hide Tags
User avatar
P
blowice27
Manager
Manager
Joined: 16 Apr 2019
Posts: 201
Own Kudos [?]: 286 [2]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, Sustainability
Schools: Foster '22 (D) Olin '22 (A$) Rotman '23 (D) NUS '23 (I) Tepper '23 (A) Marshall'23 (I) Kelley '23 (A$) Kenan-Flagler'23 (A$)
GPA: 4
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
Reviews Badge
Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   Updated on: 02 Aug 2021, 14:04
2
Kudos
I got into KF(30k per) vs Kelley(35k per)- Indian-Tech
KF will cost me 40-45k more.

Post MBA : Plan A - Marketing/Brand Management/Advertising-Sales/Product Marketing Manager - No preference in Industry(Sports - NBA, Nike will be dream but these are quite difficult, havent seen NBA as a recruiter anywhere)
Plan b - Consulting(MBB or even internal strategy)

UNC wins in almost all aspects Location(Duke), Weather, Prestige and Brand Value, On-Campus Opportunities(?), Diversity(lots of Indians at kelley). Kelley wins on cost
UNC also has great sports culture(Ball is life) but not sure that translates into a job.

Both are STEM, but KF stem is related to business analytics and I dont want my job to revolve around analytics, although it can be part of what I do.

Leaning towards KF but not sure whether it commands such a premium. How long will it take to make up that difference?

Originally posted by blowice27 on 05 Mar 2020, 09:16.
Last edited by bb on 02 Aug 2021, 14:04, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
L
bb
Founder
Founder
Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Posts: 37302
Own Kudos [?]: 72872 [1]
Given Kudos: 18859
Location: United States (WA)
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3
Send PM
GMAT ToolKit User CAT Tests Forum Quiz Mode
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   05 Mar 2020, 09:27
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
Congrats on your admits!!! Great Job getting scholarships too!

I would usually think it is totally acceptable to go to Kelley (Marketing and Brand is their unofficial focus). Let's see what the silent Kelley students thing. However, we have had a really hard time to have their students come out and share their thoughts. There is a whole bunch of them but they can't manage to reply. Their reluctance seems to indicate some reservations....

When do you have to make the choice by? Can you wait 2 more weeks till US News rankings come out (not that it should influence your decision but just in case Kelley drops)?

P.S. On the other hand woody93 and AnkurGupta have been very engaged and helpful with KF questions.
User avatar
P
blowice27
Manager
Manager
Joined: 16 Apr 2019
Posts: 201
Own Kudos [?]: 286 [0]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, Sustainability
Schools: Foster '22 (D) Olin '22 (A$) Rotman '23 (D) NUS '23 (I) Tepper '23 (A) Marshall'23 (I) Kelley '23 (A$) Kenan-Flagler'23 (A$)
GPA: 4
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   05 Mar 2020, 09:29
Kf is april first week and Kelley is May 1, so I got time.

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
G
woody93
Manager
Manager
Joined: 27 Sep 2016
Posts: 121
Own Kudos [?]: 108 [2]
Given Kudos: 11
Concentration: General Management, Strategy
Schools: Kenan-Flagler '21 (M) Goizueta '21 (A) Owen '21 (WD) McDonough '21 (A) Ross '21 (WD) McCombs '24 Tepper '24
GMAT 1: 710 Q48 V53
GRE 1: Q160 V160
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   05 Mar 2020, 11:19
2
Kudos
Hey there current 1st year UNC student and more than happy to help. Congrats on 2 terrific admits with scholarships. I will agree with most of your statements. UNC is a tier above Kelley, has better recruitment across several industries (though Indiana seems great at marketing given its location). UNC brand also stretches further, weather is beautiful and you can't beat Chapel Hill and the sports scene here. That said, depends on how cost averse you are. If you are set at Marketing, you can do that at both schools. If you think you might also switch to consulting, UNC has the edge in consulting recruitment.

I would spend the extra for UNC over Kelley but I hear Kelley is solid in marketing too. P.S I am going into Product Management and UNC opportunities were ample here.
User avatar
L
bb
Founder
Founder
Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Posts: 37302
Own Kudos [?]: 72872 [1]
Given Kudos: 18859
Location: United States (WA)
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3
Send PM
GMAT ToolKit User CAT Tests Forum Quiz Mode
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   05 Mar 2020, 11:28
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
I would also chime in and point out that Consulting is the MAIN MBA job industry these days in many schools - everyone wants or thinks they want to go into consulting and there are many reasons but Consulting is very competitive as the result. Each program and school is able to place a decent number KF: 63 of 266 - about 24% and Kelley 37 out of 160 - about 23% as well. However, it is always harder to place 63 vs 37 folks while the chances are the same.

I would also venture out to say that most MBB's recruit heavily US applicants, unfortunately. It is very hard to get in as an international since you have to compete against fairly polished domestic candidates who are very presentable and don't have a language barrier. If you are aiming for consulting, start working on your speaking and presentation skills - those will be judged quite a bit as well as you case interviews.
User avatar
L
souvik101990
Alum
Joined: 19 Mar 2012
Posts: 4341
Own Kudos [?]: 51448 [0]
Given Kudos: 2326
Location: United States (WA)
Concentration: Leadership, General Management
Schools: Ross '20 (M)
GMAT 1: 760 Q50 V42
GMAT 2: 740 Q49 V42 (Online)
GMAT 3: 760 Q50 V42 (Online)
GPA: 3.8
WE:Marketing (Non-Profit and Government)
Send PM
GMAT ToolKit User Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   05 Mar 2020, 22:06
Expert Reply
quick question - with only $5K difference in aid, why is your UNC cost $45K higher? Is it the cost of living? You can minimize a lot of that by being frugal.

Also, have you asked for more aid? You should!

Consulting can hardly ever be a plan B. It is most people's plan AAA and you will compete with them. Also sports marketing is very niche and will most likely never sponsor international students. Your best bet with be either consulting or tech, and for those reasons I would recommend UNC.
User avatar
P
blowice27
Manager
Manager
Joined: 16 Apr 2019
Posts: 201
Own Kudos [?]: 286 [0]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, Sustainability
Schools: Foster '22 (D) Olin '22 (A$) Rotman '23 (D) NUS '23 (I) Tepper '23 (A) Marshall'23 (I) Kelley '23 (A$) Kenan-Flagler'23 (A$)
GPA: 4
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   05 Mar 2020, 22:22
souvik101990 wrote:
quick question - with only $5K difference in aid, why is your UNC cost $45K higher? Is it the cost of living? You can minimize a lot of that by being frugal.

Also, have you asked for more aid? You should!

Consulting can hardly ever be a plan B. It is most people's plan AAA and you will compete with them. Also sports marketing is very niche and will most likely never sponsor international students. Your best bet with be either consulting or tech, and for those reasons I would recommend UNC.


So 10k in aid and UNC tuition is 15k higher per year.
I don't mind staying in tech(probably my best bet to get sponsorship) but still contemplating on function.
I'll make up my mind before I start school, but still weighing my options.
I will negotiate with UNC, and if I do get it it will hands down UNC.

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
B
studenthopeful
Intern
Intern
Joined: 03 Sep 2017
Posts: 34
Own Kudos [?]: 15 [1]
Given Kudos: 36
Location: United States
Schools: Kelley '21 (M$) Goizueta '21 (A$) McCombs '21 (A) Duke '21 (D)
GMAT 1: 710 Q46 V41
GPA: 3.07
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   09 Mar 2020, 06:36
1
Kudos
blowice27 wrote:
I got into KF(30k per) vs Kelley(35k per)- Indian-Tech
KF will cost me 40-45k more.

Post MBA : Plan A - Marketing/Brand Management/Advertising-Sales/Product Marketing Manager - No preference in Industry(Sports - NBA, Nike will be dream but these are quite difficult, havent seen NBA as a recruiter anywhere)
Plan b - Consulting(MBB or even internal strategy)

UNC wins in almost all aspects Location(Duke), Weather, Prestige and Brand Value, On-Campus Opportunities(?), Diversity(lots of Indians at kelley). Kelley wins on cost
UNC also has great sports culture(Ball is life) but not sure that translates into a job.

Both are STEM, but KF stem is related to business analytics and I dont want my job to revolve around analytics, although it can be part of what I do.

Leaning towards KF but not sure whether it commands such a premium. How long will it take to make up that difference?


Congrats on the admits! Two great programs. You are correct that KF is a tier above Kelley, but not by much. However, Kelley is a very strong marketing/brand management school. The opportunities I have been exposed to in the brand management world have been incredible, and I'm not sure I would have had those experiences anywhere else but Kelley. Bloomington also has a great sports culture here, as the Big 10 is a great and competitive division. The city has everything that you would need from a college town, at half the cost. Coming from a large city myself, I have been very happy with living here so far. Let us know if you have any other questions, or need further clarification on anything!
avatar
B
thecowgoesmoo
Intern
Intern
Joined: 15 Mar 2019
Posts: 19
Own Kudos [?]: 15 [1]
Given Kudos: 1
Location: United States
GMAT 1: 700 Q47 V39
GPA: 3.45
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   11 Mar 2020, 09:54
Kenan-Flagler is definitely a better school than Indiana and the degree will go further than Kelley. Geographically places much better, higher salary, etc...
avatar
B
admission2020
Manager
Manager
Joined: 08 Aug 2018
Posts: 97
Own Kudos [?]: 38 [0]
Given Kudos: 98
Location: India
Concentration: General Management, Finance
Schools: HBS '21 (WD) CBS '21 (D) Duke '21 (D) Tepper '21 (D) Rotman '21 (D) Schulich Sept '21 (A) Kenan-Flagler '22 (M$) McDonough '22 (A) Marshall '22 (A) Foster '22 (A$) Kelley '22 (A$) Jones '22 (A$) McCombs '22 (A)
GMAT 1: 720 Q51 V36
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   12 Mar 2020, 01:07
bb wrote:
Each program and school is able to place a decent number KF: 63 of 266 - about 24% and Kelley 37 out of 160 - about 23% as well. However, it is always harder to place 63 vs 37 folks while the chances are the same.

Can you elaborate a bit more bb KF places more in absolute numbers, so we should pick KF over Kelley if consulting is our target function?
User avatar
P
blowice27
Manager
Manager
Joined: 16 Apr 2019
Posts: 201
Own Kudos [?]: 286 [0]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, Sustainability
Schools: Foster '22 (D) Olin '22 (A$) Rotman '23 (D) NUS '23 (I) Tepper '23 (A) Marshall'23 (I) Kelley '23 (A$) Kenan-Flagler'23 (A$)
GPA: 4
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   16 Mar 2020, 04:30
Adding WashU Olin with full scholarship. I don't think I prefer Olin, especially the way they're distributing scholarship.

But if I can get into stem dual degree for Olin, should I consider it as an option?
bb souvik101990

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
B
studenthopeful
Intern
Intern
Joined: 03 Sep 2017
Posts: 34
Own Kudos [?]: 15 [0]
Given Kudos: 36
Location: United States
Schools: Kelley '21 (M$) Goizueta '21 (A$) McCombs '21 (A) Duke '21 (D)
GMAT 1: 710 Q46 V41
GPA: 3.07
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   16 Mar 2020, 08:53
Congrats on another admit!

I'm not sure if this was mentioned earlier, but Kelley just became STEM certified. I don't know if that is useful information, but wanted to make that known.
User avatar
P
blowice27
Manager
Manager
Joined: 16 Apr 2019
Posts: 201
Own Kudos [?]: 286 [0]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, Sustainability
Schools: Foster '22 (D) Olin '22 (A$) Rotman '23 (D) NUS '23 (I) Tepper '23 (A) Marshall'23 (I) Kelley '23 (A$) Kenan-Flagler'23 (A$)
GPA: 4
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   22 Apr 2020, 09:47
Trying to keep the thread active.
I am planning on going into Brand Management in any industry.
UNC will cost me 125k
Kelley 80k
Olin only living expenses.
Any thoughts

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
B
studenthopeful
Intern
Intern
Joined: 03 Sep 2017
Posts: 34
Own Kudos [?]: 15 [1]
Given Kudos: 36
Location: United States
Schools: Kelley '21 (M$) Goizueta '21 (A$) McCombs '21 (A) Duke '21 (D)
GMAT 1: 710 Q46 V41
GPA: 3.07
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   22 Apr 2020, 10:55
1
Kudos
blowice27 wrote:
Trying to keep the thread active.
I am planning on going into Brand Management in any industry.
UNC will cost me 125k
Kelley 80k
Olin only living expenses.
Any thoughts

Posted from my mobile device


Three great schools, so you're in a great position to chose from those! As mentioned earlier, Kelley has a reputation as an exceptional "marketing school", with an emphasis on brand management. Some of my classmates are going to top companies within brand management - Procter & Gamble, Coca-Cola, ConAgra, Nestle, J&J, and more. The companies that recruit on campus here at Kelley consist of some of the big corporations for brand managers. Product management has also been growing in popularity, and I also have classmates going into this function within tech - PayPal, Amazon, Google, etc.

Let us know if you have any other questions!
avatar
G
woody93
Manager
Manager
Joined: 27 Sep 2016
Posts: 121
Own Kudos [?]: 108 [2]
Given Kudos: 11
Concentration: General Management, Strategy
Schools: Kenan-Flagler '21 (M) Goizueta '21 (A) Owen '21 (WD) McDonough '21 (A) Ross '21 (WD) McCombs '24 Tepper '24
GMAT 1: 710 Q48 V53
GRE 1: Q160 V160
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   22 Apr 2020, 20:56
2
Kudos
Hey - current 1st year at UNC. Awesome jobs at these schools! I do not know much about Kelley but I have heard they have a great reputation in brand management. I guess it would depend on geography. UNC's geographic placement will be a tad above Kelley. Also, the firms mentioned above me all come to UNC for brand management recruitment. We have a ton of people going to P&G (we are one of their core schools), Hershey (CEO Michelle Buck is a UNC alum), J&J, PepsiCo, Coca Cola, Amazon, Google, Facebook, and much more. Goodluck!
User avatar
P
Regenerate
BSchool Forum Moderator
Joined: 24 Apr 2020
Posts: 499
Own Kudos [?]: 301 [0]
Given Kudos: 75
Location: United States
Concentration: Strategy, Finance
Schools: UCLA Anderson Duke Fuqua UVA Darden Ross Michigan
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   25 Apr 2020, 10:03
Where would you prefer to live post MBA?

Do you see yourself settling down in one place after school or moving a bit (to chase promotions or otherwise)?

The 10 yr ROI can be enormously affected by the upfront costs and the accrued interest.

If you're up for hustling a bit more (for better grades and internships / jobs), it would be tough to turn down a full ride anywhere. But, at a lower ranked school you'd need to be closer to the top of the class to compete against an average student at a higher ranked shop.

Posted from my mobile device
User avatar
P
blowice27
Manager
Manager
Joined: 16 Apr 2019
Posts: 201
Own Kudos [?]: 286 [1]
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Marketing, Sustainability
Schools: Foster '22 (D) Olin '22 (A$) Rotman '23 (D) NUS '23 (I) Tepper '23 (A) Marshall'23 (I) Kelley '23 (A$) Kenan-Flagler'23 (A$)
GPA: 4
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Send PM
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   21 Feb 2021, 05:16
1
Kudos
Thanks everyone. I ended up deferring UNC.
However, I applied again and will be joining Kelley in 2021.

Posted from my mobile device
User avatar
L
bb
Founder
Founder
Joined: 04 Dec 2002
Posts: 37302
Own Kudos [?]: 72872 [0]
Given Kudos: 18859
Location: United States (WA)
GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42
GPA: 3
Send PM
GMAT ToolKit User CAT Tests Forum Quiz Mode
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   24 Feb 2021, 17:40
Expert Reply
blowice27 wrote:
Thanks everyone. I ended up deferring UNC.
However, I applied again and will be joining Kelley in 2021.

Posted from my mobile device



Thank you so much for the update!
Glad you found UNC to be a good choice originally and congrats on getting a scholarship at Kelley!
avatar
Nawai
Intern
Intern
Joined: 24 May 2021
Posts: 3
Own Kudos [?]: 0 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   14 Jun 2021, 08:15
Hey guys, I kinda need your help here.
I got full scholarship from Kelley and 60% from UNC. I want to concentrate in Operations Management and Business analytics. My goal post MBA is to work in the tech industry as product manager or in strategy roles.

Given the location and the rank I want UNC but it’s tough to turn down a full ride scholarship. Any thoughts would help.

Posted from my mobile device
avatar
G
woody93
Manager
Manager
Joined: 27 Sep 2016
Posts: 121
Own Kudos [?]: 108 [0]
Given Kudos: 11
Concentration: General Management, Strategy
Schools: Kenan-Flagler '21 (M) Goizueta '21 (A) Owen '21 (WD) McDonough '21 (A) Ross '21 (WD) McCombs '24 Tepper '24
GMAT 1: 710 Q48 V53
GRE 1: Q160 V160
Reviews Badge
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink] New post   15 Jun 2021, 18:41
I'd choose UNC, better ranked program, better location and more opportunities.
GMAT Club Bot
gmatclubot
Re: Kenan-Flagler($) vs Kelley($$$) vs Olin($$$$) [Solved: UNC Deferral] [#permalink]
15 Jun 2021, 18:41
 1   2   
Moderator:
PyjamaScientist
Admitted - Which School Forum Moderator
1131 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne
Main navigation
GMAT Resources
Partners
MBA Resources
www.gmac.com|www.mba.com | | GMAT Club Rules | Terms and Conditions