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Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/04/science/scientists-try-to-create-forest-of-cloned-trees.html

New classes of clones are carefully brought along while the computer records of millions of variables on thousands of trees are expanded. One lesson learned long ago is that trees, even clones, carry within themselves not only the inherited traits of their parents but their inherited needs, such as a forest's specific soil, air, moisture or weather conditions. To survive the offspring must return to the same altitude, soil and climate. ''For trees,'' said Dr. Ritchie, ''you can't not go home again.''

What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?
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Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

A)..
B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
E) but also specific environmental requirements, such a for a particular forest's soil


What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?


Choice C breaks parallel structure. Ignoring the rest, you can read the last part of the sentence like this: Requirements for a forest's soil, for a forest's air, for a forest's degree of moisture, and for a forest's weather conditions. Of course, "for a forest's" only needs to be stated once.
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eybrj2 wrote:
Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

A)..
B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
E) but also specific environmental requirements, such a for a particular forest's soil


What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?


Hi all,

but also construction is idiomatic ....
This leaves us with C, D and E.

Function of AS:
1: It can be used for comparison : In this case the such as should be followed by a clause eg. in C - such as for the soil of a particular forest.
2: As a Function : In this case the such as should be followed by a noun eg in E - such as a for a particular forest's soil.

Here AS is used as a function therefore E.

Like is not used as a function so D goes out.


Hope it helps.

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Is there a transcription problem? where is the 'as' in E? If we use 'as' in the role playing function, then there should be no ' such" ; It should be just 'as'. The moment we use such as, it becomes part of an example.

The specific question is : what is the difference between 'for the soil of a particular forest' and 'for a particular forest's soil'?
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for me it boiled down to c & E. i went ahead with c. and still not able to figure out why C is wrong. Expect different "articles " i don't see any difference between the two options.
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What is difference btw C And E. I believe soil of particular forest makes more sense than having apostrophe ... ?
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I believe soil of particular forest makes more sense than having apostrophe ... ?


Yes - it does make more sense if you only consider this phrase as a stand alone one.

But, you have to also note what follows the non underline portion. "air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions" should make reference to the forest - note the keyword "particular" used to modify "forest". So, in order to maintain the meaning we must make sure that all the following noun do refer to "forest" - and hence the need of apostrophe.

......... forest's X, Y, Z and ...

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What is difference btw C And E. I believe soil of particular forest makes more sense than having apostrophe ... ?


forest's soil,air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.


but C breaks this structure .each element is related to forest ,but C makes air ,degree of moisture and weather kind of separate entity.
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Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil

What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?
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Answer c makes more sense to me as all other ,,, air , degree of moisture , and weather conditions are a list important to the soil of the forest
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What is difference between "for the soil of a particular forest" and "for a particular forest's soil"

Why is option C wrong
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New post 28 Sep 2017, 02:11
The posts by Swoosh617 and godot 53 explain what's wrong with C. It doesn't make sense to say that trees require "degree of moisture" or "weather conditions." Even "air" is odd, as it's unlikely that the author is simply telling us that the need for air is genetic. Those phrases only make sense in context. The trees require the soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions of a particular forest. Only D and E correctly set this up with the possessive ("a particular forest's soil, air," etc.).

There's nothing inherently wrong with saying "the soil of a particular forest." That construction just doesn't set us up for a meaningful, parallel list using the nouns that follow.
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eybrj2 wrote:
Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil

What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?
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Option C is a trap option here. I do fell in that trap. Its very important to understand the meaning than just seeing the sentence structure or the usage of apostrophe as possessives.

Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

The correct structure is,
Trees inherit from their parent trees
not only physical features
but also specific environmental requirements, such as
for a particular forest's soil,
for a particular forest's air,
for a particular forest's degree of moisture, and
for a particular forest's weather conditions.
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eybrj2 wrote:
Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil

What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?
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Option C is a trap option here. I do fell in that trap. Its very important to understand the meaning than just seeing the sentence structure or the usage of apostrophe as possessives.

Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

The correct structure is,
Trees inherit from their parent trees
not only physical features
but also specific environmental requirements, such as
for a particular forest's soil,
for a particular forest's air,
for a particular forest's degree of moisture, and
for a particular forest's weather conditions.


Hi,
can you explain the use of the word for. I feel the word for is redundant. I am not able to understand the usage- such as for......
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aceGMAT21 wrote:
eybrj2 wrote:
Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil

What's wrong with c?
What's the difference between " the soil of a particular forest" and a particular forest's soil" in terms of meaning?
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Option C is a trap option here. I do fell in that trap. Its very important to understand the meaning than just seeing the sentence structure or the usage of apostrophe as possessives.

Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

The correct structure is,
Trees inherit from their parent trees
not only physical features
but also specific environmental requirements, such as
for a particular forest's soil,
for a particular forest's air,
for a particular forest's degree of moisture, and
for a particular forest's weather conditions.


Hi,
can you explain the use of the word for. I feel the word for is redundant. I am not able to understand the usage- such as for......


Hi sunny91,

'Such As' is used to provide examples. Like can never be used for the same. So, if you go through all the option choices, only options A, C and E remains. In all the three choices you can see the construction 'SUCH AS FOR'. So, its obviously correct. The word 'for' is not redundant here. It is simply used as a preposition. In the context of the sentence it is used as the following --

Used to indicate the use of something, for example,

This place is for exhibitions and shows.
I baked a cake for your birthday.
I put a note on the door for privacy.
She has been studying hard for the final exam.

Other Usages of preposition 'for' :

1. Used to mean because of: (Very commonly used on GMAT SC questions)

I was tired, for I had played cricket throughout the day..
I was very happy with her, for she supported me in all situations..
I gave few examples on usage of 'for', for smartyguy wanted clarity on the usage..
I am so happy for you.
We feel deeply sorry for your loss.
For this reason, I’ve decided to quit this job.

Used to indicate time or duration:

He’s been famous for many decades.
I attended the university for one year only.
This is all I have for today.

Hope it answers your query. :-)

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can you explain the use of the word for. I feel the word for is redundant. I am not able to understand the usage- such as for......


That for is related to requirement.

requirement for something

rishabhdxt wrote:
What is difference between "for the soil of a particular forest" and "for a particular forest's soil"

Why is option C wrong


Actually, there is no difference. Only in the context of the sentence, E is appropriate while C is not.

Quote:
Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil


C) the soil of a particular forest, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions
E) a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions

Which is meaningful?

Can you think of the soil of a particular air or the soil of a particular degree of moisture, for example?

But we can think of a particular forest's air or a particular forest's degre of moisture, right?
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sunny91 wrote:
Hi,
can you explain the use of the word for. I feel the word for is redundant. I am not able to understand the usage- such as for......


That for is related to requirement.

requirement for something

rishabhdxt wrote:
What is difference between "for the soil of a particular forest" and "for a particular forest's soil"

Why is option C wrong


Actually, there is no difference. Only in the context of the sentence E is appropriate while C is not.

Quote:
Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil


C) the soil of a particular forest, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions
E) a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions

Which is meaningful?

Can you think of the soil of a particular air or the soil of a particular degree of moisture, for example?

But we can think of a particular forest's air or a particular forest's degre of moisture, right?




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Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil -- incorrect idiom
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest -- incorrect idiom
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest -- correct idiom but soil of a particular forest is not parallel with the list
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil -- incorrect usage of like
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil -- correct
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I couldn't understand difference between Option C and E.

Could you please clarify.
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[quote="eybrj2"]Trees inherit from their parent trees not only physical features and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil, air, degree of moisture, and weather conditions.

(A) and also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil
(B) and also specific environmental requirements, like the soil of a particular forest
(C) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for the soil of a particular forest
(D) but also specific environmental requirements, like a particular forest's soil
(E) but also specific environmental requirements, such as for a particular forest's soil

[spoiler=]https://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/04/science/scientists-try-to-create-forest-of-cloned-trees.html

Damn..was stuck between C and E and Chose C.

But the main issue is the parallel list. By this logic, E makes sense
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