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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.


(A) that they are denied permission for participating

(B) that they be denied permission for participating

(C) denying them permission for participation

(D) the denial of permission that they participate

(E) to deny them permission to participate


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Hello Everyone!

Let’s take a look at the options, one problem at a time, and narrow things down to find the correct answer.

Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.

A. that they are denied permission for participating
B. that they be denied permission for participating
C. denying them permission for participation
D. the denial of permission that they participate
E. to deny them permission to participate

After a quick scan of each option, a few differences stick out that we should address:

1. Their endings: for participating/participation vs. participate
2. Passive vs. active voice


We can see that if we start with #1 on our list, no matter which way we go, will eliminate 2 or 3 options right away. Let’s start there!

If you read options A and B carefully for their exact meaning, you may see a bit of a problem:

A. that they are denied permission for participating
B. that they be denied permission for participating

By using the phrase “for participating,” the sentence means that the environmentalists were denied something because they participated in the parade. This isn’t accurate – the vote determined they were not allowed to be in the parade in the first place! We can throw out options A and B because the phrase “for participating” changes the intended meaning, making them INCORRECT.

Next, let’s look at option C in its entirety:

C. Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted denying them permission for participation in the parade.

This is INCORRECT because there needs to be a comma before “denying” for this to even work. It also sounds clunky and confusing, which is a bad thing on the GMAT.

Now we’re left with options D and E. Let’s look at them closely for any other problems:

D. the denial of permission that they participate

This sounds about as terribly awkward as option C, doesn’t it? This is INCORRECT because the phrase “the denial of permission” is in passive voice, which the GMAT does not like.

E. to deny them permission to participate

This is CORRECT because it is concise and conveys the correct meaning - and it's the only option left!


There you have it - option E is the correct answer!


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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.


A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate


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1) voted to/for is correct here..
Public voted them to power...
Public voted for a change

2) permission to participate is correct..

So voted to deny them permission to participate... Is correct

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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.

A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate



to participate in the parade. - is the correct usage.

to deny - is correct here.

So The city council voted to deny them permission to participate in the parade - IS correct

Note : - them refers to environmentalists
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Hence E is the best of all.
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Hi MagooshExpert,

Appreciate your help.
Ans B is missing Infinitive of Purpose. If we address the issue, can we use subjunctive? in that case, would the following be correct?

B. that they be denied permission to participate

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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.

A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate

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My Take :-
A:- City council is singular , so they is wrong here
B:- Same as A
C:- denying is modifying whom ? wrong modifier used
D:- they participate sounds as the regular habbit rather than a purpose of this denial.
E:- correct
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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.


A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate


E does not seem correct because the entire sentence means that the objective of voting was to deny the environmentalists participation.

Can someone elaborate on this ?
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1. It must be noted that the use of subjunctive mood in the context using the bare infinitive 'be denied' is incorrect, since 'voted' is not among the subjunctive mood verbs.

2. Yes. True. The very purpose of voting was to deny the environmentalists permission.
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Hi, I have solved the question as follows:

Please correct me if I am wrong.

A. the word 'they' can refer to both council members or environmentalists.
B. Same as A
C. the word 'them' can refer to both council member or environmentalists.
D. wordy
E. Correct as 'them' is used for environmentalists.
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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.

A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate


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Hi, I have solved the question as follows:

Please correct me if I am wrong.


It is a good attempt but is a little off the mark in certain perceptions. Please bear the logic in mind that 'they' or 'them' in all the choices refers only to the environmentalists and not to the members of the council since nobody will like to vote themselves out. I do not know why you exempted E alone from that perception. Therefore, one must look for other errors in this topic

First, let us get B and D out because we cannot use the command subjunctive as explained in my other note.

Now let us come to idioms. For participating, for participation are all wrong as in A, B, and C. Since there is a purpose involved in both voting and participation, the correct idiom is 'to vote' and 'to participate', as in E.
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Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.

A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate


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Hi, I have solved the question as follows:

Please correct me if I am wrong.


It is a good attempt but is a little off the mark in certain perceptions. Please bear the logic in mind that 'they' or 'them' in all the choices refers only to the environmentalists and not to the members of the council since nobody will like to vote themselves out. I do not know why you exempted E alone from that perception. Therefore, one must look for other errors in this topic

First, let us get B and D out because we cannot use the command subjunctive as explained in my other note.

Now let us come to idioms. For participating, for participation are all wrong as in A, B, and C. Since there is a purpose involved in both voting and participation, the correct idiom is 'to vote' and 'to participate', as in E.
HTH


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Hi, I have solved the question as follows:

Please correct me if I am wrong.

A. the word 'they' can refer to both council members or environmentalists.
B. Same as A
C. the word 'them' can refer to both council member or environmentalists.
D. wordy
E. Correct as 'them' is used for environmentalists.

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Since city council is singular so "they" cannot refer to the city council in options A and B, and them also refers to the environmentalists in latter options.
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kashhtu wrote:
Hi, I have solved the question as follows:

Please correct me if I am wrong.

A. the word 'they' can refer to both council members or environmentalists.
B. Same as A
C. the word 'them' can refer to both council member or environmentalists.
D. wordy
E. Correct as 'them' is used for environmentalists.

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Since city council is singular so "they" cannot refer to the city council in options A and B, and them also refers to the environmentalists in latter options.



Hi, Can you tell me the solution then?
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permission for something or
permission to do something
those are idioms.
permission for doing is idiomatic.
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[quote="Bunuel"]Because it regarded the environmentalists as members of an out-of-state organization, the city council voted that they are denied permission for participating in the parade.


A. that they are denied permission for participating

B. that they be denied permission for participating

C. denying them permission for participation

D. the denial of permission that they participate

E. to deny them permission to participate

this question is about the test of idioms with verbs and nouns. nouns and verbs in English must be in idioms when they combine with other noun and object.
vote for/against something, vote on something
deny somebody something
permission for something/ permission to do

, "vote doing", "vote doing" " vote something". we do not have "permission for doing".

if an action is permitted, we use "permission to do", not "permission for doing". if something is permitted, we use " permission for something. this is basic but not so easy that we remember the two idioms.

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My Take :-
A:- City council is singular , so they is wrong here
B:- Same as A
C:- denying is modifying whom ? wrong modifier used
D:- they participate sounds as the regular habbit rather than a purpose of this denial.
E:- correct


I am not sure if your explanation is correct regarding options A and B.
Just like "they" is used in A and B, "them" is used in the correct answer option E.

"They" and "Them" refer to environmentalists IMO.
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A quick way to get to the right option is to see what the sentence is trying to say.

The use of ‘for participating’ implies nonsensical meaning – that these people not be permitted for something else "for participating" in the parade.

This is clearly not the intended meaning here.

So Option E is the only one that is clear and concise.

Eliminate Options A, B, C and D.

Option E is the best choice.

Hope this helps!
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