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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
A. while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
B. compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
C. whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
D. whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
E. compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent



my doubts are related to Ellipsis.Please clarify.

meaning- The author says that over 75 percent of the total energy produced in France comes from the nuclear power, while only 33 percent of the total energy produced in Germany comes from nuclear power.





A) Incorrect- while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1) According to me here IT is ambiguous.

while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

while in Germany it(the energy) (produced from nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

So it can refer to either the energy or nuclear power.



2)According to me there is ambiguity in comparison too.

while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.
this sentence doesn't convey the intended comparison, it doesn't say that 33 percent of the total energy produced in Germany.

while (the energy produced ) in Germany (from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.
This is the intended meaning.





Option B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent.

even this is ambiguous.

if we don't use ellipsis.
The energy produced in France is compared to Germany.(this is incorrect)

with ellipsis.
compared to ( the energy produced from nuclear power in ) Germany,which uses just over 33 percent.

Even this doesn't state the intended meaning but my point is that there are 2 comparisons possible.

DOUBT- is this all correct ?? or have i gone too far with Ellipsis. am i missing something.

And can we use that the comparison is illogical or incorrect because we didnt use ellipsis as i did in option B)

if we don't use ellipsis.
The energy produced in France is compared to Germany.(this is incorrect)



Hi Sid,
Thank you for posting you query here. :)

Your analysis seems correct to me. In option A, the ambiguity in comparison arises because the reference of "it" is not clear. So, the pronoun error causes the ambiguity in comparison also.

In option B again, I'll say you have clearly understood both the cases, and analyzed them correctly. However, you need not to consider the second case (with ellipsis). If you focus on the ellipsis questions in GMAT, generally a preposition or a verb is omitted to bring the ambiguity in the meaning. You won't usually see long phrases such as "the energy produced from nuclear power in" omitted.


Hope this helps. :)
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A) Incorrect- while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1) According to me here IT is ambiguous.

Not just ambiguous, it actually does not have any referent.

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while in Germany ( the energy produced from) it (nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

while in Germany it(the energy) (produced from nuclear power) is just over 33 percent.

As e-gmat mentioned, there is really no case of ellipsis here. The main reason why A is incorrect is because of incorrect usage of it. It is also important to understand that the left hand side of the sentence does not talk at all about energy produced from nuclear power. It is talking about energy derived from nuclear power. So, we cannot assume that it refers to energy produced from nuclear power.

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Option B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent.

with ellipsis.
compared to ( the energy produced from nuclear power in ) Germany,which uses just over 33 percent.

Again, for the reason cited above, we cannot assume this, because left hand side does not mention energy produced from nuclear power.

The easiest way to eliminate B is that it says: Germany uses just over 33 percent; nothing about the usage is mentioned or implied in the original sentence.
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1 while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
2 compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
3 whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
4 whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
5 compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent


compare energy with energy
1. compare energy with germany - out.
2. same mistake as in 1.
3. compares energy with energy, looks good.
4. compares energy, while smth else - no. 33% of energy produced in france comes from nuclear power in germany? ambiguous.
5. energy produced compared with energy from nuclear power. 33% of what?

C looks the best here.
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1 while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
2 compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
3 whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
4 whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
5 compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent


compare energy with energy
1. compare energy with germany - out.
2. same mistake as in 1.
3. compares energy with energy, looks good.
4. compares energy, while smth else - no. 33% of energy produced in france comes from nuclear power in germany? ambiguous.
5. energy produced compared with energy from nuclear power. 33% of what?

C looks the best here.


Hi mvictor,

I have a slight difference in opinion about your explanation of option 1 :) . The comparison between in France and in Germany does not seem to have any error. The problems lies in the following:

Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France is compared with it in Germany . The comparison between the prepositional phrases in France and in Germany does not have problem as such. The problem is in the comparison between Over 75 percent of the energy produced and it. The pronoun it by virtue of parallelism refers to over 75 percent of energy. Therefore the second part of the sentence effectively becomes .....in Germany over 75 percent of the energy produced is just over 33 percent. This sentence, as you would understand, is thus meaningless. :)
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

1 while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
2 compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
3 whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
4 whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
5 compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent

1) The subject of the sentence is "Over 75 percent of the energy" so it being the subject of the next clause will be replaced with "Over 75 percent of the energy".

1 while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
-> this option is incorrect because of the point # 1

2 compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
-> Meaning of the sentence is 75% of energy requirement is fulfilled by nuclear in France and Germany uses 33%. 33% of what is not clear at all.

3 whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
-> Correct

4 whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
-> meaning appears to be that nuclear power is so inefficient that it can only produce 33% of energy but in option C) Nuclear energy accounts for 33% of the total energy. The meaning is quite clear in Option C)

5 compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent
33% -> Defines Germany or Nuclear power -> Absurd Meaning
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Over 75% of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33%.

A) while in Germany it is just over 33%
Wrong:- "It" is ambiguous. Does it refers to nuclear power or to the energy produced.

B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33%
Wrong:- Energy is compared to Germany.

C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33% of the energy produced in Germany
Correct:- Correctly compares "75% of the energy produced in France" to "33% of the energy produced in Germany"

D) whereas just over 33% of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
Wrong:- Ok !! This is the funniest of all options. To understand why it is wrong you will have to read the entire sentence.
Over 75% of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power whereas just over 33% of the energy comes from- nuclear power in Germany
This makes us feel that WE ARE TALKING ONLY ABOUT FRANCE'S ENERGY. FRANCE MAKES IT OWN ENERGY AND TAKES 33% ENERGY FROM GERMANY.

E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33%.
Wrong:- Again "it" has no logical antecedent. What is 33% - "energy" or "nuclear power" ?


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Over 75% of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33%.

A) while in Germany it is just over 33%
B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33%
C) whereas nuclear poweraccounts for just over 33% of the energy produced in Germany
D) whereas just over 33% of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33%.

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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
"it" may refer to nuclear power or energy. No proper antecedent for the pronoun.

(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
We don't want to compare the statistics with a country. Invalid comparison.

(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
Again an invalid comparison between the energy and nuclear power.

(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
Correct. "75% of energy" is compared with "33% of energy" correctly.

(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent
"it" doesn't have a proper antecedent. "it" can't refer to the "energy from nuclear power". A pronoun should refer back to a noun and not a phrase.
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent --- 'it' absurdly refers to the 75% energy

(B) Compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent--75% energy is being compared to Germany

(C) Whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany-- The only choice with a semblance of expediency.

(D) Whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany-- means that 33% of the energy produced in France comes from German plants

(E) Compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent -- same problem of pronoun reference as in A

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OA is C

See Manhattan Blog: https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/over-75-of-the-energy-produced-in-france-derives-from-t6833.html

Reason why D is wrong :

this sentence is written in a way whose meaning is at best ambiguous and at worst incorrect.

one possible meaning, if not the meaning, is that 33% of "the energy" (we don't know where this energy is, or where it's used) comes from "nuclear power in germany". i.e., the power itself is in germany (whatever that means), but "the energy" is we-don't-know-where
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent - the pronoun "it" doesn't have a legitimate antecedent.
here, "it" would have to stand for something like "the percentage/proportion/fraction of energy provided by nukes". there is no such noun in the sentence, so "it" is an orphan.
(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent - EVERYTHING here is wrong.

"compared to germany" isn't a valid comparison, because it's not parallel to anything.
france is tethered to the prepositional phrase "IN france", so it can't be compared to just "germany".

also, the sentence doesn't say that france "uses" anything.

finally, "uses" isn't used logically here. germany "uses" the nuclear energy, but it also "uses" the energy that isn't nuclear!
(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany - Correct

(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany - this sentence is written in a way whose meaning is at best ambiguous and at worst incorrect.

one possible meaning, if not the meaning, is that 33% of "the energy" (we don't know where this energy is, or where it's used) comes from "nuclear power in germany". i.e., the power itself is in germany (whatever that means), but "the energy" is we-don't-know-where.

(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent - first, false comparison: the earlier part doesn't mention "the energy from nuclear power in france", so this isn't parallel. (the earlier part mentions a percentage of ALL power in france.)

second, and more obviously, the pronoun "it" doesn't have a legitimate antecedent, for essentially the same reason as in (a).

Answer C
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent

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I have a query when it comes to option C. The non-underlined portion in the questions is active voice whereas Option C is in passive voice. Could anybody please clarify?
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent

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I have a query when it comes to option C. The non-underlined portion in the questions is active voice whereas Option C is in passive voice. Could anybody please clarify?

(C) actually isn't in passive voice at all. Check out this post for more on the difference between active and passive voice. And if that doesn't help, let us know.

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@GMATNinja- I am a little confused here. While I understand the issues in other options, I think option C has a comparison issue. Is overall energy not being compared to nuclear energy in C. Is that correct? Or is it not wrong enough to eliminate C?

The way (C) is structured, the comparison isn't just between two nouns. Basically, the comparison is between two clauses, separated by the conjunction "whereas":

  • Clause 1: "Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power..."
  • Clause 2: "...nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany."

So there's no problem there. We're very logically comparing two different nuclear-power situations in two different countries, in the form of two distinct clauses.

I hope that helps!
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent

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(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
It could be nuclear power or the energy being produced in France thus with substitution of words, this answer choice does not make sense.

(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
This could very well mean that Germany uses just over 33% of the energy derived from nuclear power in France which is not the case.

(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
This one leaves no ambiguity and makes perfect sense.

(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
This one is not clear on what exactly is meant by energy in this sentence.

(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent
The statement makes no sense.
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Hi experts,

i dismiss answer choice C because of "whereas", which is not the member of FANBOYS -- for, and nor, but, or, yet, so.

I think i must miss something, but i have no idea about it.

Any experts can elaborate further ?

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i dismiss answer choice C because of "whereas", which is not the member of FANBOYS -- for, and nor, but, or, yet, so.

I think i must miss something, but i have no idea about it.

Any experts can elaborate further ?

Thanks in advance

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I'm not 100% sure that I'm interpreting your question correctly. It sounds like you dismissed "whereas" BECAUSE it isn't a "FANBOY"? I'm not sure if that's what you're thinking, but there's no rule that says that you need a "FANBOY" here.

If it helps, "whereas" basically means something like "while on the other hand" or "in contrast to the fact that." Neither of those are elegant phrases, but they hopefully give you a sense of the meaning of "whereas".

Does that help at all?
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zoezhuyan wrote:
Hi experts,

i dismiss answer choice C because of "whereas", which is not the member of FANBOYS -- for, and nor, but, or, yet, so.

I think i must miss something, but i have no idea about it.

Any experts can elaborate further ?

Thanks in advance

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I'm not 100% sure that I'm interpreting your question correctly. It sounds like you dismissed "whereas" BECAUSE it isn't a "FANBOY"? I'm not sure if that's what you're thinking, but there's no rule that says that you need a "FANBOY" here.

If it helps, "whereas" basically means something like "while on the other hand" or "in contrast to the fact that." Neither of those are elegant phrases, but they hopefully give you a sense of the meaning of "whereas".

Does that help at all?


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Quote:
Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power,
is a complete clause, is an independent clause

Quote:
nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
is a complete clause, is an independent clause

can these two clauses conjunct by "whereas"? which is not a member of FANBOYS

please help point out my reasoning bug.

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1. We can connect two ICs with a punctuation such as a semicolon, which is not among fanboys.
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Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power, while in Germany it is just over 33 percent.

(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
-- What is "it?" The energy is just over 33 percent of what?

(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent
(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
Wrong comparisons with "energy produced in France"

(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
Over 75 percent of the energy produced in France derives from nuclear power,
-- The idea is to compare the amount of energy produced by nuclear power in France to the amount of energy produced by nuclear power in Germany.
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(A) while in Germany it is just over 33 percent
Here "it" has an ambiguous antecedent (what is just over 33%, energy or nuclear power) . Hence wrong.

(B) compared to Germany, which uses just over 33 percent
compared to Germany is not a valid comparison. It seems that energy is compared to Germany.

(C) whereas nuclear power accounts for just over 33 percent of the energy produced in Germany
This is correct and has a parallel structure.

(D) whereas just over 33 percent of the energy comes from nuclear power in Germany
This changes the meaning. Here it seems that "33 percent of energy" comes from "nuclear power in Germany". In other words, 33% of energy for some place where it will be used comes from the nuclear power in Germany. It has ambiguous meaning

(E) compared with the energy from nuclear power in Germany, where it is just over 33 percent.
This also changes the meaning. This implies a comparison between the 75% of energy in France and energy from nuclear power in Germany. It is also not parallel

Hence C is correct.

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