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New post 04 Mar 2019, 22:26
What I am confused between "to them" and "to themselves" is that I interpret the sentence as "some companies let employees pick benefits for themselves," and I think this shows reflexive.

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Why C is incorrect?

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.To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

We will discuss some of the important points here; GMAT is mainly testing here with “ THAT” ,“PARALLELISM”

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them

Letting is correct as its referring to the benefits. ( THOSE: Plural and it should refer to a plural Noun (Correct)—> So Benefits ( Plural) So use of those is correct.

letting employees pick “benefits” most important to them ( CORRECT)

(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves. ( use of themselves is incorrect): There should be a proper noun. Ram,Mike any proper noun should be there to refer. Use of THEM is correct here. (SO this opt is WRONG)

(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves

Same as B. And benefits and letting is not Parallel ( SO WRONG)

(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them

Same Parallel issue ( SO WRONG) how the benefits and let parallel. We know if we are using AND both the side should be parallel. And moreover LET is a verb. Benefits should not be parallel with a VERB ( SO WRONG)

(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves

Same issue as D and B.( WRONG)
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B "pick the most important of them" really implies that all employees are picking the most important benefit and thus should all be picking the same benefit.
Do we really need to say "to themselves" also? No. It's really an inefficient version of A that articulates quite clearly that first: benefits appeal to talent, and the companies (b) let employees pick, from the benefits, those most important to them


(A)To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(B) To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves

C, D and E really simply make as if the "letting employees pick" the benefits aspect is something that the companies intend to use to attract the "most talented workers". To attract X, companies are Y and Z.....
This doesn't make logical sense as the range of benefits should be what appeals to talent
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(E) To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves
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(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves

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I think I could live with the parallelism here: "letting" follows "and", so we need to find something that's parallel to "letting." How about "offering"? So "some companies are offering..." and "some companies are letting..." I guess that's OK, though I think the sentences works a little bit better if "letting" is a modifier, but I wouldn't automatically eliminate (C) because of that.

But the "themselves" is wrong again - "them" would be fine. Eliminate (C).


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Sorry for the tag!

A doubt came into mind when I was reading this explanation.

As per this explanation of choice C, the Parallelism is Okay but "themselves" is wrong. That's cool.

But let's say the option C was modified to "(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to them" then as per this logic it would be a correct choice?

Why I disagree is the meaning and modifier. From what I understood the employers are providing benefits and letting the employees pick them is a modifier (-ing form) modifying the entire phrase.

And option C is actually creating false parallelism by introducing an "and".

I hope I conveyed my doubt clearly. Just want to make sure my reasoning is okay here.

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(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves

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I think I could live with the parallelism here: "letting" follows "and", so we need to find something that's parallel to "letting." How about "offering"? So "some companies are offering..." and "some companies are letting..." I guess that's OK, though I think the sentences works a little bit better if "letting" is a modifier, but I wouldn't automatically eliminate (C) because of that.

But the "themselves" is wrong again - "them" would be fine. Eliminate (C).


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Sorry for the tag!

A doubt came into mind when I was reading this explanation.

As per this explanation of choice C, the Parallelism is Okay but "themselves" is wrong. That's cool.

But let's say the option C was modified to "(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to them" then as per this logic it would be a correct choice?

Why I disagree is the meaning and modifier. From what I understood the employers are providing benefits and letting the employees pick them is a modifier (-ing form) modifying the entire phrase.

And option C is actually creating false parallelism by introducing an "and".

I hope I conveyed my doubt clearly. Just want to make sure my reasoning is okay here.

Thank you in advance!

Interesting question!

In general, I'm not convinced that it's great to invent hypothetical sentences when there are thousands of official answer choices we can learn from, I agree with you. "Offering" and "letting" would be parallel, but it would subtly change the meaning in a way that makes the sentence slightly less logical.

In the OA, as you noted, "letting" modifies the entire previous clause, providing additional information about what the company is offering, whereas in the hypothetical example, it seems as though "offering" and "letting" are two distinct things that don't necessarily have a direct relationship. So while I wouldn't say that this construction is wrong, it's still not quite as good as (A).

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Interesting question!

In general, I'm not convinced that it's great to invent hypothetical sentences when there are thousands of official answer choices we can learn from, I agree with you. "Offering" and "letting" would be parallel, but it would subtly change the meaning in a way that makes the sentence slightly less logical.

In the OA, as you noted, "letting" modifies the entire previous clause, providing additional information about what the company is offering, whereas in the hypothetical example, it seems as though "offering" and "letting" are two distinct things that don't necessarily have a direct relationship. So while I wouldn't say that this construction is wrong, it's still not quite as good as (A).

Nicely done!


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Thanks! I know. I know. and I agree 100% to not invent hypothetical sentences.

It just came up in my mind when I was reading your explanation that stated Parallelism is acceptable but "themselves" is a problem.

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P.S: Are you sure you want to be Online here on a Friday night? :tongue_opt3 I have to. I am taking the test in near future. :shh:

Haha, my schedule has gotten all sorts of wacky the past couple of weeks, so I've been making up for lost hours at ugly times on weekend night. Once I finish up tonight, I'm going to ask my 2-year-old to hide my computer someplace where I can't possibly find it until Monday morning. ;)

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Hi GMATNinja,

Thank you for your explanation.

However, I have some doubt on B.
According to your explanation on B , I still quite do not understand.
Why the use of "... to themselves" is incorrect?


From my understanding, reflexive pronoun is used when the subject and the object of the sentence are the same.
So in B, Can it be interpreted "letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves" that
the employees "themselves" do pick the benefits to themselves" ?


Please help me.

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A.CORRECT. Adjective clause is correct.
B. Improper Adjective Clause. adjectival clause “important to themselves” does not modify “benefits” correctly. Would have to be “the benefits that are most important to them” or “the benefits most important to them” etc
C. “most important to themselves” is not a
D. Wrong. Verb Tense. Should be letting…Parellel. Must match “offering” so needs “ing” verb. “Ing” for continuous action
E. Wrong. Verb Tense. Should be letting…Parellel. Must match “offering” so needs “ing” verb. “Ing” for continuous action
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Hi GMATNinja,

Thank you for your explanation.

However, I have some doubt on B.
According to your explanation on B , I still quite do not understand.
Why the use of "... to themselves" is incorrect?


From my understanding, reflexive pronoun is used when the subject and the object of the sentence are the same.
So in B, Can it be interpreted "letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves" that
the employees "themselves" do pick the benefits to themselves" ?


Please help me.

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Good question! Remember, we use a reflexive pronoun when the pronoun is the object of an action performed by the same subject. For example:

    After watching in disbelief as J.R. Smith failed to call timeout, LeBron punched himself in the face.

Here, LeBron is both the one doing the punching and getting punched. (And later, perhaps, J.R. Smith will also come in for some corporal punishment.) Because LeBron is the object of the action he's performing, "himself" is appropriate.

But consider the following as well:

    After watching in disbelief as J.R. Smith failed to call timeout, LeBron had to do some soul-searching and really consider what values were most important to him.

Notice that the pronoun "him" is used differently here. It's no longer the object of an action, but rather, part of a modifying phrase describing "values." In this case, we don't use the reflexive pronoun.

(B) is more like the latter case. Here, "important... to themselves" is describing the benefits. Because "themselves" isn't the object of an action, but rather, part of a modifier, the use of the reflexive is wrong.

I hope that helps!
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