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To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them
(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves
(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves
(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them
(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves

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In the OA - A, we have 2 plural pronouns in the underlined part that refer to two different antecedents - those refers to benefits and them refers to employees
.Is this usage acceptable as per GMAT?
In the example available in the below link, we eliminate choice because there is an ambiguity with respect to usage of a possessive pronoun "their" in choices in which "they" refers to a different antecedent.
I know neither those or them is a possessive pronoun, but nevertheless, want a clarity on whether the usage of 2 plural pronouns to refer to different antecedent is acceptable ?

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To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them
(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves
(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves
(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them
(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves

EMPOWERgmatRichC ,daagh , mikemcgarry , egmat , GMATNinja , RonPurewal , other experts!! Please help !

In the OA - A, we have 2 plural pronouns in the underlined part that refer to two different antecedents - those refers to benefits and them refers to employees
.Is this usage acceptable as per GMAT?
In the example available in the below link, we eliminate choice because there is an ambiguity with respect to usage of a possessive pronoun "their" in choices in which "they" refers to a different antecedent.
I know neither those or them is a possessive pronoun, but nevertheless, want a clarity on whether the usage of 2 plural pronouns to refer to different antecedent is acceptable ?

https://gmatclub.com/forum/while-depres ... 91967.html


I have the same doubt, could GMATNinja or mikemcgarry please clarify this?

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To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them
- correct as is

(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves
- "of them to themselves" = redundant.

(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves
- "and letting" = incorrect, b/c it makes it sound like this is a second action in a list. "letting" is not the primary verb in the sentence, it ranks lower in importance than "offering", almost like a modifier

(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them
- same as "C". "and let" should be "letting"

(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves
- same as "D"

Key here is to understand there are 2 verbs ("offering" and "letting") -- so your job is to find out whether they're EQUAL in importance. If not, which verb is "lower" in importance? That would be "letting".
- Once you get this, you can immediately eliminate C, D & E (b/c they have "and letting/let" which makes it seem like "letting" is of equal importance to "offering"), so you have a 50/50 shot
* Problem with "B" is wordiness. "pick the most important of them to themselves" = redundant. Of course they're going to pick the most important OF THEM. Of what else??



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I came across this useful thread on "them" vs "themselves".
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/112223/among-themselves-or-among-them

He shot himself subject and object are the same, but in He shot him they're not --> We use reflexive pronoun when the subject and object are the same. In our case, the subject is "companies" and the object is "employees". Thus, we can't use a reflexive pronoun here.

Correct usage will be "them" in our given sentence.

To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them -Correct
(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves -incorrect usage of themselves
(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves -incorrect usage of themselves
(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them -incorrect parallelism
(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves -incorrect usage of themselves
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To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them
(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves
(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves
(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them
(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves

EMPOWERgmatRichC ,daagh , mikemcgarry , egmat , GMATNinja , RonPurewal , other experts!! Please help !

In the OA - A, we have 2 plural pronouns in the underlined part that refer to two different antecedents - those refers to benefits and them refers to employees
.Is this usage acceptable as per GMAT?
In the example available in the below link, we eliminate choice because there is an ambiguity with respect to usage of a possessive pronoun "their" in choices in which "they" refers to a different antecedent.
I know neither those or them is a possessive pronoun, but nevertheless, want a clarity on whether the usage of 2 plural pronouns to refer to different antecedent is acceptable ?

https://gmatclub.com/forum/while-depres ... 91967.html

Really good question, Skywalker18. And I'm not sure that you'll find the answers very satisfying. :)

I think that it can be really confusing when two consecutive pronouns refer to two different antecedents, and the GMAT generally frowns upon that type of usage. (Here's an example in a recent QOTD: https://gmatclub.com/forum/qotd-paper-p ... 49765.html). The key word there is "generally", though. As with most things on the GMAT, there are exceptions.

The important thing to remember is that the GMAT doesn't see pronoun ambiguity as an absolute rule. Yes, pronoun ambiguity is important, and you should notice it and think about it when you have the opportunity. But it's not necessarily WRONG. If, for example, all of your answer choices have the same pronoun ambiguity, then it's a non-issue -- and that's exactly the case in this question. Or if the other answer choices have more severe errors, then the pronoun ambiguity might be "trumped" by some other mistake.

Bottom line: yeah, you should be pretty suspicious whenever they give you two consecutive pronouns that refer to different antecedents. But don't assume that the answer choice is automatically wrong in that situation until you're sure that you have better options.

For more on ambiguity, check out our YouTube webinar on pronouns.
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Re: To attract the most talented workers some companies [#permalink]

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Skywalker18 wrote:
To attract the most talented workers, some companies are offering a wider range of benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them.

(A) benefits, letting employees pick those most important to them
(B) benefits, letting employees pick the most important of them to themselves
(C) benefits and letting employees pick the most important to themselves
(D) benefits and let employees pick the most important to them
(E) benefits and let employees pick those that are most important to themselves

EMPOWERgmatRichC ,daagh , mikemcgarry , egmat , GMATNinja , RonPurewal , other experts!! Please help !

In the OA - A, we have 2 plural pronouns in the underlined part that refer to two different antecedents - those refers to benefits and them refers to employees
.Is this usage acceptable as per GMAT?
In the example available in the below link, we eliminate choice because there is an ambiguity with respect to usage of a possessive pronoun "their" in choices in which "they" refers to a different antecedent.
I know neither those or them is a possessive pronoun, but nevertheless, want a clarity on whether the usage of 2 plural pronouns to refer to different antecedent is acceptable ?

https://gmatclub.com/forum/while-depres ... 91967.html

Really good question, Skywalker18. And I'm not sure that you'll find the answers very satisfying. :)

I think that it can be really confusing when two consecutive pronouns refer to two different antecedents, and the GMAT generally frowns upon that type of usage. (Here's an example in a recent QOTD: https://gmatclub.com/forum/qotd-paper-p ... 49765.html). The key word there is "generally", though. As with most things on the GMAT, there are exceptions.

The important thing to remember is that the GMAT doesn't see pronoun ambiguity as an absolute rule. Yes, pronoun ambiguity is important, and you should notice it and think about it when you have the opportunity. But it's not necessarily WRONG. If, for example, all of your answer choices have the same pronoun ambiguity, then it's a non-issue -- and that's exactly the case in this question. Or if the other answer choices have more severe errors, then the pronoun ambiguity might be "trumped" by some other mistake.

Bottom line: yeah, you should be pretty suspicious whenever they give you two consecutive pronouns that refer to different antecedents. But don't assume that the answer choice is automatically wrong in that situation until you're sure that you have better options.

For more on ambiguity, check out our YouTube webinar on pronouns.


Hi,
Those and them have clear references. Option A looks best, but I have a query- here those actually modify benefits. But the term benefits is associated with a wider range of . So, initially I hesitated that those is incorrect as we need a singular form that. But none of the options look good and A comes out as the best one. Can you kindly clarify if we have that in the sentence instead of those, thn option A stands still good.

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