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Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive. In addition to irritating the majority who already behave responsibly, it may undermine all government pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious. And there is no reason to believe that those who ignore measured voices will listen to shouting.

The two sections in boldface play which of the following roles in the public health expert's argument?


(A) The first is a conclusion for which support is provided. but is not the argument's main conclusion; the second is an unsupported premise supporting the arguments main conclusion.

(B) The first is a premise supporting the only explicit conclusion; so is the second.

(C) The first is the argument's main conclusion; the second supports that conclusion and is itself a conclusion for which support is provided.

(D) The first is a premise supporting the argument's only conclusion; the second is that conclusion.

(E) The first is the argument‘s only explicit conclusion; the second is a premise supporting that conclusion.


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Step 1: Identify the Question

The boldface font and the word roles in the question stem indicate that this is a Describe the Role question.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

Boldface #1: increasing urgency may backfire

Irritate the majority

Boldface #2: may undermine all gov’t health messages

No reason to believe that people will listen to increased urgency

The argument is a little convoluted, so it may help to restate it in your own words. When the government makes a public health announcement, most people listen and act responsibly. Some don’t, though. Sending increasingly urgent messages to those people won’t actually make them respond responsibly and might actually make the ones who are responsible stop paying attention.

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

The first boldface is the conclusion of the argument. The second is a premise in support of that conclusion.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) Hmm. Not the argument’s main conclusion? Check the argument again to make sure that you’ve got the main conclusion. Yep, the first boldface is the main conclusion, so this choice is incorrect.

(B) The first one is the conclusion, not a premise supporting the conclusion.

(C) Yes, the first is the conclusion. Yes, the second supports that conclusion. Is the second also a conclusion? Check the two non-bold portions of the argument to see whether they provide support for this statement. Nope, both refer to people who don’t listen to the message; they don’t address the people who do.

(D) The first one is the conclusion, not a premise supporting the conclusion.

(E) CORRECT. The first boldface is the conclusion and the second is a premise supporting that conclusion.
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  25 May 2016, 05:02
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Why is C wrong? Isn't the second part a subconclusion for which we can say support is provided in terms of 'by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious"?


The part "by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious" is a portion of the second bold faced part. There has to be a premise OUTSIDE this bold faced part to support this bold faced part.
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Hello WillGetIt,
For Bold- Faced CR ,always identify the main conclusion of the argument .Then identify the role of the bold -faced portions with respect to the conclusion .
Identifying the option will be easier .
In this question ,Conclusion:Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive .
Now look at the role played by the bold faced portions:
First is conclusion and the list is narrowed down to C and E .
Look at the second bold faced portion :Is it a conclusion ? .If yes, what is the supporting argument for it ? The passage does not support second portion as conclusion .
So E is the right answer.

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Public health expert:
Conclusion: Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive.
1st Supporting Premise: In addition to irritating the majority who already behave responsibly, It may undermine all government pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious.
2nd Supporting Premise: And there is no reason to believe that those who ignore measured voices will listen to shouting.

(C) The first is the argument's main conclusion; the second supports that conclusion and is itself a conclusion
for which support is provided.
Problem is the 2nd half of the sentence: If you look for why "it may undermine all government..." you will not find any support in the argument.
The last line of this argument is another premise supporting the conclusion presented in 1st line.

(E) The first is the argument‘s only explicit conclusion; the second is a premise supporting that conclusion.
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  04 May 2016, 09:54
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Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive. In
addition to irritating the majority who already behave responsibly, It may undermine all government
pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious. And there
is no reason to believe that those who ignore measured voices will listen to shouting.
The two sections in boldface play which of the following roles in the public health expert's argument?

(A) The first is a conclusion for which support is provided. but is not the argument's main conclusion; the
second is an unsupported premise supporting the arguments main conclusion.

(B) The first is a premise supporting the only explicit conclusion; so is the second.

(Ci The first is the argument's main conclusion; the second supports that conclusion and is itself a conclusion
for which support is provided.

(D) The first is a premise supporting the argument's only conclusion; the second is that conclusion.

(E) The first is the argument‘s only explicit conclusion; the second is a premise supporting that conclusion.

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Hi Egmat,

I was confused between C and E and eventually selected C. Below is my analysis and doubt. Please clarify:

Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive. - Conclusion

In addition to irritating the majority who already behave responsibly,- Reason 1
It may undermine all government pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious. - Reason 2 This is also a prediction by the author or his belief. I don't see this as a fact. However, the part It may.... health is a prediction that is indeed supported by the fact that the effect of underming may happen due to convinving ppl that such msgs are overly cautious.

Can't I say that BF2 is an intermediate conclusion that is supported by a premise and then it in turn supports the main conclusion.

Please clarify.
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  10 May 2016, 06:21
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Hi,

As per MGMAT CR process for Describe the role (Bold face) questions, the following is an accurate methodology to crack this question type.
I was able to solve this using the same approach and its quite helpful.

First bold face says "Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive."
This is the authors Conclusion and mark it as "B1 = C", indicating Conclusion.
Coming to the 2nd Bold face, authors gives additional information about the above stated conclusion and he is the right guy to be a Premise. ( Since, author is giving more facts about the stated conclusion.)
Now mark it as "B2 = P".

Go on the answer choices to find out for 'C' & 'P' combination.

There is only one option for this combination and so the answer is "E".


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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  24 May 2016, 20:39
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Why is C wrong? Isn't the second part a subconclusion for which we can say support is provided in terms of 'by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious"?
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  20 Jul 2017, 05:18
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In case of C, is it an oxy moron situation ?

that is ..is it ever possible that a bold face plays the role of premise for a conclusion AND is in itself a conclusion ?

can i eliminate C w/o having to ever look at the problem ...please let me know your thoughts ...
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  20 Jul 2017, 08:59
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Verbal experts ...

In case of C, is it an oxy moron situation ?

that is ..is it ever possible that a bold face plays the role of premise for a conclusion AND is in itself a conclusion ?

can i eliminate C w/o having to ever look at the problem ...please let me know your thoughts ...


Hi jabhatta@umail.iu.edu ,

Yes, It may happen that second boldface is a conclusion supporting the main conclusion.

We call the second boldface an Intermediate conclusion.

I hope that makes sense. :)
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  20 Jul 2017, 16:52
The conclusion is "Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive". (E) notes that sentence one is the conclusion.
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  26 Aug 2017, 13:03
Conclusion is: Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive.. which is first Boldface.
so C/E
but in option C it is also written that it supports the main conclusion and is also a conclusion for support is provided, sorry what?? there is no support provided. So C is eliminated

Answer is E
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  17 Sep 2017, 01:51
Hello expert,

According to me, In option c, second bold letter sentence is author's opinion. But it is not necessary that all author's opinion result into conclusion.
Am i right?
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According to me, In option c, second bold letter sentence is author's opinion. But it is not necessary that all author's opinion result into conclusion.
Am i right?

You are right that the second boldfaced portion is the author's opinion. This opinion is used in support of the main conclusion. However, there is nothing in the passage to support that opinion.
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Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive. In addition to irritating the majority who already behave responsibly, it may undermine all government pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious. And there is no reason to believe that those who ignore measured voices will listen to shouting.

The two sections in boldface play which of the following roles in the public health expert's argument?

* BOLD FACE Q: First ID the Conclusion and then find out how the BF relates to it.
> BF1 = clearly the conclusion of the passage
> BF2 = clearly supports BF1.
>Other: last sentence is further explaining why BF1 is main conclusion, giving additional info

(A) The first is a conclusion for which support is provided. but is not the argument's main conclusion; the second is an unsupported premise supporting the arguments main conclusion.
 - BF1 is the argument's main conclusion & BF2 is a supported premise

(B) The first is a premise supporting the only explicit conclusion; so is the second.
 - BF1 is NOT a premise, it is the Conclusion

(C) The first is the argument's main conclusion; the second supports that conclusion and is itself a conclusion for which support is provided.
 - BF2 is not itself a conclusion for which support is provided...

(D) The first is a premise supporting the argument's only conclusion; the second is that conclusion.
 - BF2 is NOT a conclusion, its a premise.

(E) The first is the argument‘s only explicit conclusion; the second is a premise supporting that conclusion.
 - Correct as is.

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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  21 Sep 2018, 15:40
BF1: The main conlcusion of the argument.
BF2: One of three premise that provide support to the conclusion.

Hence answer: E
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the correct choice says that the second bold face is a premise

now as far as i know a premise is something which has to be taken as true and cannot be challenged or its validity cannot be question.
now the second bold face is an opinion of the author and explicitly mentioned by him/her that "it may ....."

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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  07 Oct 2018, 04:57
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(D) The first is a premise supporting the argument's only conclusion; the second is that conclusion.

1st BF is the only conclusion of the abstract. 2nd BF is giving support to the conclusion/1st BF. This trim things down to C and E. is 2nd BF also a conclusion. surly not. for making a statement a conclusion one need evidence. while 1st BF has an evidence, 2nd one is without one. surly 2nd one is giving support to 1st BF. Option E is on these lines.

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Yes you are right with the part that it is author's hypothesis, but clearly that can also be the part of the premise.
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  07 Oct 2018, 09:01
Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive may undermine all government pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious.

Can some explain what is the conclusion here
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Re: Public health expert: Increasing the urgency of a public health messag [#permalink] New post  17 Oct 2018, 07:22
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the correct choice says that the second bold face is a premise

now as far as i know a premise is something which has to be taken as true and cannot be challenged or its validity cannot be question.
now the second bold face is an opinion of the author and explicitly mentioned by him/her that "it may ....."

please explain egmat

I had the exact same doubt. I have an impression that premise is a fact, while here, the 2nd BF is clearly an opinion and not a fact. So, how is E the right answer?
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the correct choice says that the second bold face is a premise

now as far as i know a premise is something which has to be taken as true and cannot be challenged or its validity cannot be question.
now the second bold face is an opinion of the author and explicitly mentioned by him/her that "it may ....."

please explain egmat

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I had the exact same doubt. I have an impression that premise is a fact, while here, the 2nd BF is clearly an opinion and not a fact. So, how is E the right answer?

Yes, a premise is a statement that must be taken as true, and cannot be questioned.

But this doesn't mean that the premise itself must indicate that something is definitely true. Consider this instructional example:

Quote:
Weatherman: Commuters who want to stay dry on their way home should take an umbrella to work today. It's possible that we'll see heavy rainfall between 5:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m.

The premise (which is bolded) clearly supports the weatherman's conclusion. However, the premise doesn't read, "It will definitely rain." The premise reads, "It's possible that we'll see heavy rainfall."

We take the entire statement to be true, but the statement itself tells us what is possible. It doesn't matter whether this forecast only tells us what might happen. The overall statement is still a valid premise.

Coming back to our OG question, here's the conclusion again:

Quote:
Increasing the urgency of a public health message may be counterproductive.

And here are the two premises backing up this conclusion:

  • Increasing the urgency of a public health message irritates the majority who already behave responsibly.
  • Increasing the urgency of a public health message undermine all government pronouncements on health by convincing people that such messages are overly cautious.

Both premises support the public health expert's conclusion. The second premise doesn't offer a 100% confirmation that increasing the urgency will undermine all government pronouncements. But we don't need that in order to accept this as a premise supporting the conclusion.

I hope this helps!
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