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To add to what Kyle Widdison stated above, we anyway cannot assume the verb (is/was) after that in option A, because this option uses like.

Remember that like is a preposition and so, cannot be followed by verb (prepositions can only be followed by nouns/pronouns/noun-phrases).


Excellent point. When you are comparing nouns, use "like". When you are comparing clauses (clauses include a verb), use "as".

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In this sentence THAT should refer to goal. But THAT refers to the nearest noun which can be young adults,majority of young adults, or goal. so there is ambiguity.

Hi Sid, when you mention: THAT refers to the nearest noun which can be young adults,majority of young adults, or goal, I believe you are interpreting the usage of that as as relative pronoun (For example, This is the ball that burst. Here, that as as relative pronoun and refers to ball).

In the sentence under consideration, that is used as a demonstrative pronoun. You might want to refer to the discussion on the thread below, to enhance your understanding.

http://gmatclub.com/forum/according-to-a-recent-poll-owning-and-living-in-a-15189.html#p1387526

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According to a recent poll, owing and living in a free standing house on its own land is still a goal of majority of young adults,like that of earlier generations.

A) like that of earlier generations.
B) as that of earlier generations.
C) just as earlier generations did
D) as have earlier generations
E) as it was of earlier generations

Its an OG 12 Q..I got this wrong..Not able to even get the explanations mentioned.
Can anyone pls explain.



We know for sure that we are comparing two sets of people young adults and earlier generation with same goal-owing and living in a free standing house on its own land.

A is incorrect- Whenever Like is used with comma after a clause it ALWAYS refers back-modifies- the subject of the previous clause.
A WRONGLY means the following-
According to a recent poll, owing and living in a free standing house on its own land like that of earlier generations. is still a goal of majority of young adults.
Does the above makes sense? Absolutely not. :) :)

B is incorrect- WHat is the antecedent of THAT? goal or the house .Moreover, the clause lacks a clear subject and verb.

C --In the AS Clause-the subject earlier generations and the verb did are not parallel to that of main clause.C compares earlier generations with owing and living in a free standing house on its own land. Verb is , is not parallel with did.

D- the verb is and have are not parallel.
The original sentence use IS to state a FACT.

E- CORRECT
E corrects all errors. It maintains parallelism and compares the correct entities- Young Adults and the Earlier Generations.As introduces a subordinate clause and the verb of the As clause is parallel to the verb of the main clause.

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1. use of like
2. use of as
3. use of As to introduce a dependent clause- complete with its own subject and verb.
4.Identification of comparable entities
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Here is a similar question from GMAT Pill E Book and according to them the answer is B . Phew!

I think their e book is quite confusing. Any comments?
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You may find the following simplified structure helpful.

A comparison is introduced by as. The word as compares the following 2 elements:

1. Owning and living is a goal of majority of young adults.
2. Owning and living was a goal of majority of young adults of earlier generations.

By virtue of parallelism and in order to avoid repetition, we are allowed to omit / replace certain words /phrases from the second element as is shown below:

2. it (owning and living replaced by pronoun) was (a goal of majority of young adults omitted) of earlier generations.

Therefore option E is correct.
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Here is a similar question from GMAT Pill E Book and according to them the answer is B . Phew!

I think their e book is quite confusing. Any comments?


Hi,
the answer cannot be B, because of following reasons..
1) parallelism..
if in non underlined portion we are saying " top priority of students", it should be followed with of earlier generations..
There is no reason to change from "for' to "of"..

2) what can "that" stand for..
top priority:-
replace and see if it makes sense..
...graduating is a top property for students, as top property for earlier generations..

3) in the present structure, 'as' should introduce a subordinate clause..
so it requires a subject and verb..

Now WHAT to do with the book..
Any source should be able to duplicate a Q of OG correctly...

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According to a recent poll, owning and living in a free standing house on its own land is still a goal of majority of young adults, like that of earlier generation.

a. like that of earlier generations.
b. as that of earlier generation.
c. just as earlier generations did.
d. as have earlier generations.
e. as it was of earlier generations.


According to a recent poll, owning and living in a free standing house on its own land is still a goal of majority of young adults, as it was of earlier generations.

Correct answer must be (E) for the highlighted errors in other options...

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Hi expert,
can pronoun it refer to the action "owning and living" ?
I boiled down to A and E,and chose A instead.
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I chose B.

....Goal of majority of young adults, as goal (that) of earlier generation.

please point out the error here.


In B, the parallelism is not maintained.

X is still a goal of present generation, as goal of past generation... a clause (blue font) is wrongly compared to a noun phrase ( pink font).

In E, parallelism is maintained properly between two clauses.
X is still a goal of present generation, as it was of past generation.
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can pronoun it refer to the action "owning and living" ?
I boiled down to A and E,and chose A instead.


The noun phrase "owning and living in a free standing house" is one entity (a goal), not two actions. Since this is an official question, it can be seen that GMAT allows a complete noun phrase as antecedent.
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According to a recent poll, owning and living in a free standing house on its own land is still a goal of majority of young adults, like that of earlier generation.

a. like that of earlier generations.
b. as that of earlier generation.change meaning
c. just as earlier generations did.
d. as have earlier generations.
e. as it was of earlier generations.
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Hope you're all well. Here the correct answer is E. Can you help me by saying what ''it'' and ''its'' refers to in this sentence, please? I mean what is the antecedent of these 2 things?
Thank you...
The its goes to house (a freestanding house on its own land). The it refers to owning and living.
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According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.

(A) like that of earlier generations
(B) as that for earlier generations
(C) just as earlier generations did
(D) as have earlier generations
(E) as it was of earlier generations


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Hi Expert,
Hope you're all well. Here the correct answer is E. Can you help me by saying what ''it'' and ''its'' refers to in this sentence, please? I mean what is the antecedent of these 2 things?
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The its goes to house (a freestanding house on its own land). The it refers to owning and living.

Thank you for your kind response. But, if we replace owning and living with it, then the whole sentence becomes:
According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, as owning and living was of earlier generations.. Does the RED part indicate any goal of earlier generation?
This sentence doesn't make sense to me yet. Does this sentence make sense to you brother?
Thanks again for your kind response.
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Thank you for your kind response. But, if we replace owning and living with it, then the whole sentence becomes:
According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, as owning and living was of earlier generations.. Does the RED part indicate any goal of earlier generation?
This sentence doesn't make sense to me yet. Does this sentence make sense to you brother?
Thanks again for your kind response.
I should have been clearer: the it points to the entire phrase with owning and living at its head. That is, the it points to owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land. Let's refer to that entire bit as XYZ.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as it was of earlier generations.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as XYZ was (a goal) of earlier generations.
The a goal bit is understood.
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Thanks again for your kind response.
I should have been clearer: the it points to the entire phrase with owning and living at its head. That is, the it points to owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land. Let's refer to that entire bit as XYZ.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as it was of earlier generations.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as XYZ was (a goal) of earlier generations.
The a goal bit is understood.[/quote]
How a little pronoun (it) refers a giant things ( owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land)?
also, how should we know that there is a ''goal'' in the second part which is implied?
What is the rules to know all stuff?
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How a little pronoun (it) refers a giant things ( owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land)?
also, how should we know that there is a ''goal'' in the second part which is implied?
What is the rules to know all stuff?
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It's perfectly normal. For example, in switching on a TV during a storm is dangerous because it could lead to electric shocks, the it refers to the whole thing (switching on a TV during a storm). So what is dangerous? Not switching on a TV (generally), but switching on a TV during a storm.

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iMyself wrote:
Thank you for your kind response. But, if we replace owning and living with it, then the whole sentence becomes:
According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, as owning and living was of earlier generations.. Does the RED part indicate any goal of earlier generation?
This sentence doesn't make sense to me yet. Does this sentence make sense to you brother?
Thanks again for your kind response.
I should have been clearer: the it points to the entire phrase with owning and living at its head. That is, the it points to owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land. Let's refer to that entire bit as XYZ.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as it was of earlier generations.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as XYZ was (a goal) of earlier generations.
The a goal bit is understood.

Many many thanks for your nice explanation.

Off-topic:

Do you think the following sentence is correct regarding comparison?
Nowadays online education is more organized than before.
N.B.: It is urgent brother.
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AjiteshArun wrote:
iMyself wrote:
Thank you for your kind response. But, if we replace owning and living with it, then the whole sentence becomes:
According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, as owning and living was of earlier generations.. Does the RED part indicate any goal of earlier generation?
This sentence doesn't make sense to me yet. Does this sentence make sense to you brother?
Thanks again for your kind response.
I should have been clearer: the it points to the entire phrase with owning and living at its head. That is, the it points to owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land. Let's refer to that entire bit as XYZ.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as it was of earlier generations.

XYZ is a still a goal of young adults, as XYZ was (a goal) of earlier generations.
The a goal bit is understood.

Many many thanks for your nice explanation.

Off-topic:

Do you think the following sentence is correct regarding comparison?
Nowadays online education is more organized than before.
N.B.: It is urgent brother.

No, it is not. You may omit parts in parallel structure only if they already occur in the sentence. Here the sentence without omission is:
Nowadays online education is more organized than (it was) before.

The verb "was" does not occur in the sentence and hence cannot be omitted.
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According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.
A. like that of earlier generations
B. as that of for earlier generations
C. just as earlier generations did
D. as have earlier generations
E. as it was of earlier generations

Could you please help me explain the following points?
1. Does the possessive pronoun 'its' stand for freestanding house?
2. Within my limit knowledge, the underlined part = like a goal of earlier generations. Is it right? If not, could you explain for me?
3. I am confused between A and E. Are their meaning different from each other?

Thank you very much.

Hi,
This is an OG question . Like is used to compare nouns whereas as is used for phrases . To know what we are comparing here is important. The goal of young adults to live in own house is compared with earlier generations.

A. like that of earlier generations
Like can not be used here .

B. as that of for earlier generations
'of for' wrong usage

C. just as earlier generations did
not logically parallel

D. as have earlier generations
not logically parallel

E. as it was of earlier generations
here it correctly refers to 'goal' and make the comparison logically and structurally parallel
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According to a recent poll, owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is still a goal of a majority of young adults, like that of earlier generations.

(A) like that of earlier generations
(B) as that for earlier generations
(C) just as earlier generations did
(D) as have earlier generations
(E) as it was of earlier generations


First Glance

The underline is very short; compare the answer choices before reading the original sentence. The first answer uses like while others use as; a comparison is being tested.

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(1) Comparison: like that; as that; did; have

The like versus as split in the answers indicates that the sentence contains a comparison. What is the comparison? Also check the comparison for parallelism.

The sentence compares two groups: young adults today and those of earlier generations. The heart of the comparison is the fact that owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land is a goal of both groups. In other words, the full comparison itself is a clause, so as should be used to make the comparison (like is used to compare nouns). Further, as is used to compare two clauses but the second half of the comparison in answer (B) does not include a verb. Eliminate answers (A) and (B).

Answers (C), (D), and (E) all correctly use as and include a verb in the second half of the comparison. Which is correct? Parallelism still rules the day. Owning and living is a goal today as owning and living was a goal in the past.

Answer (C) uses the verb did; the earlier generations did a goal?
Answer (D) uses the verb have; owning and living have earlier generations?

Neither makes sense. Eliminate answers (C) and (D).

Note that was and is are different tenses, but the clauses are still parallel. The simple past tense was is appropriate for something that was a goal of young adults in past generations, just as the simple present is reflects something that is a goal of young adults now.

The Correct Answer

Correct answer (E) offers a parallel structure for the comparison. The pronoun it refers to the noun phrase owning and living in a freestanding house on its own land, the verb was is parallel to the verb is.
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