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Re: Subjunctive and use of that with simple verb form [#permalink]

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New post 24 Oct 2014, 04:24
Sontawila wrote:
Hi all,

I'm trying to improve my GMAT verbal score so I started studying various materials such as Manhattan verbal book and various topics in this great forum. Of course I'm missing a lot of basic grammar rules that I try to figure out. One of which is:


Subjunctive!

One of the sites has a fill-the-blanks quiz here:
http://www.englishpage.com/minitutorial ... ercise.htm

Some examples:

1- I suggest that Frank read the directions carefully before assembling the bicycle. He doesn't want the wheels to fall off while he is riding down a hill

2- She told me that the government regulates the airline industry. I don't know if that is true.

3- I think it's an interesting fact that she comes from Estonia.

My question is: When do you use/add the "s" to the verb? I cant make sense of it.

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Use the simple verb form whenever there is a request/suggestion/command.
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Subjunctive Rules and List of Verbs

The subjunctive in English is the simple form of the verb when used after certain verbs indicating that one person wants another person to do something. The word that must always appear in subjunctive sentences. If it is omitted, most of the verbs are followed by the infinitive.

Example:
We urge that you leave now.
We urge you to leave now.


Structure:
subject + verb from table below (any tense) + that + subject + verb in simple form


Use that after these verbs in subjunctive mood:
Code:
advise        decree        move        prefer           request         suggest
ask            demand       order        propose        require          urge
command       insist                   recommend       stipulate

Examples:
The judge insisted that the jury return a verdict immediately.
The university requires that all its students take this course.
The doctor suggested that his patient stop smoking.
Congress has decreed that the gasoline tax be abolished.
We proposed that he take a vacation.
I move that we adjourn until this afternoon.

There is also a list of adjectives after which you should use that and follow them by a simple verb form:

Code:
advised       necessary   recommended   urgent
important    obligatory   required           imperative
mandatory   proposed    suggested


it + be (any tense) + adjective + that + subject + verb in simple tense


Examples:
It is necessary that he find the books.
It was urgent that she leave at once.
It has been proposed that we change the topic.
It is important that you remember this question.
It has been suggested that he forget the election.
It was recommended that we wait for the authorities.


Thank you ,The most succinct Subjunctive post ever.
Question:Is there a "Bossy word rule" regarding their number<singl. vs pl.>?

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The board requires the school to submit the report.<correct>
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bb wrote:
Subjunctive Rules and List of Verbs

The subjunctive in English is the simple form of the verb when used after certain verbs indicating that one person wants another person to do something. The word that must always appear in subjunctive sentences. If it is omitted, most of the verbs are followed by the infinitive.

Example:
We urge that you leave now.
We urge you to leave now.


Structure:
subject + verb from table below (any tense) + that + subject + verb in simple form


Use that after these verbs in subjunctive mood:
Code:
advise        decree        move        prefer           request         suggest
ask            demand       order        propose        require          urge
command       insist                   recommend       stipulate

Examples:
The judge insisted that the jury return a verdict immediately.
The university requires that all its students take this course.
The doctor suggested that his patient stop smoking.
Congress has decreed that the gasoline tax be abolished.
We proposed that he take a vacation.
I move that we adjourn until this afternoon.

There is also a list of adjectives after which you should use that and follow them by a simple verb form:

Code:
advised       necessary   recommended   urgent
important    obligatory   required           imperative
mandatory   proposed    suggested


it + be (any tense) + adjective + that + subject + verb in simple tense


Examples:
It is necessary that he find the books.
It was urgent that she leave at once.
It has been proposed that we change the topic.
It is important that you remember this question.
It has been suggested that he forget the election.
It was recommended that we wait for the authorities.


Hey BB,

Great post on the usage of "That". As I understand, we use "that" either in the subjunctive form, with certain words (such as recommended), as part of an essential modifier or as a pronoun (correct me if I've missed out anything).

If a have a question as: "I have found evidence that proves that the Earth is not flat". Is that sentence gmat-tically correct? The first is part of an essential modifier and the second is necessary after proves. Or is a sentence such as "I have found evidence proving that the Earth is not flat"?

Thanks for your help
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is expect too a subjunctive marker??
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is expect too a subjunctive marker??

Hi Sankalp92, following are couple of officially correct answers that do not use subjunctive with expect:

The bank holds $3 billion in loans that are seriously delinquent or in such trouble it does not expect payments to be made when they are due.

Not one of the potential investors is expected to make an offer to buy First Interstate Bank until a merger agreement is signed that includes a provision for penalties if the deal were not to be concluded.

Having said that, chances are minimal that your ability to pick the correct answer choice would require memorization of all these subjunctive markers.

Context of the sentence and a good understanding of the application of subjunctive, is more crucial than memorizing the list of subjunctive markers.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses Subjunctive, its application and examples in significant detail. If someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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