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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited
B. where there was access to water that was less limited
C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

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So, what is the problem in C. C provides the same meaning like A to me. :)
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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited
B. where there was access to water that was less limited
C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

Before attempting this question, let’s interpret the meaning. As rainfall started decreasing and water availability turned less and less, the Anasazi decided to join other clans who were accustomed to more water access or availability. Here the double negative - less limited -means more available in terms of quantity. This is what text and choice A imply.

B also says the same essentially in an unacceptably wordy paraphrase. In addition, look at the relative pronoun, ‘where’ which is absurdly standing for the clans, as if clans are places. We should dump choice C also for the same reason and for not defining precisely whether the pronoun ‘they’ stands for the subject Anasazi or the proximate clans.

By referring to water access as a countable commodity and using the plural limitations, choices D and E foul the usage of the quantum comparative ‘less’, a term normally reserved for non- countable nouns. We may appreciate how smugly choice A uses ‘less limited’ to modify the singular noun ‘access’.

When we get something like 'limitation(S), then we should consider it as plural, and we have to use plural sign. But, in D and E, they used singular sign LESS, which is used in wrong way, isn't it?
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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited
B. where there was access to water that was less limited
C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

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So, what is the problem in C. C provides the same meaning like A to me. :)
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"Clans" is not a place - "where" is a wrong relative pronoun to refer to "clans".
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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited
B. where there was access to water that was less limited
C. where they had less limited water access
D. with less limitations on water access
E. having less limitations to water access

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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited ------>CORRECT
B. where there was access to water that was less limited ------->; here "where is not referring to an actual place
C. where they had less limited water access ------>; here "where is not referring to an actual place
D. with less limitations on water access -------->distorted the intended meaning;here seems "water access" may be imposed by another authority ,other than blessed by natural good effect(intended meaning)
E. having less limitations to water access -------->distorted the intended meaning;here seems "water access" may be imposed by another authority ,other than blessed by natural good effect(intended meaning)
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I do not see any problem with "having". A present participle modifier such as this one is alright and is used as an adjective (in this case for the noun "clan"). The problem with D and E is the awkward usage "water access". "Water access" may mean "access BY water" ( e.g. land access, water access etc.) and may not mean "access TO water".


Hi sayantanc2k
I like your explanation for having
i read one thread that "having" is incorrect ,
I broke this idea after your explanation.
but i am a little confused, please confirm
as long as "having" works as a participle and as an adjective, it is correct,
except this condition, "having" is incorrect, right?
did i miss something ?

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I do not see any problem with "having". A present participle modifier such as this one is alright and is used as an adjective (in this case for the noun "clan"). The problem with D and E is the awkward usage "water access". "Water access" may mean "access BY water" ( e.g. land access, water access etc.) and may not mean "access TO water".


Hi sayantanc2k
I like your explanation for having
i read one thread that "having" is incorrect ,
I broke this idea after your explanation.
but i am a little confused, please confirm
as long as "having" works as a participle and as an adjective, it is correct,
except this condition, "having" is incorrect, right?
did i miss something ?

thanks a lot
have a nice day
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Like all other verbs, "having" may also be used in the following forms:

Verb (progressive tense):
I am going to school.
I am having a pizza.

Gerund (noun):
Going to school is no fun.
Having a pizza is great fun.

All the above sentences are correct.
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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited
- "whose" correctly joins "other clans" to "access to water"

B. where there was access to water that was less limited
- "where" can only be used if there is a physical place that is being referenced -- not the case here

C. where they had less limited water access
- same issue as "B"

D. with less limitations on water access
- "limitations on" is unidiomatic as well as passive

E. having less limitations to water access
- "having less" incorrectly modifies the entire phrase before. Also passive construction.

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As rainfall began to decrease in the Southwest about the middle of the twelfth century, most of the Monument Valley Anasazi abandoned their homes to join other clans whose access to water was less limited.

A. whose access to water was less limited
Access to water is correct ; Whose correctly modifies 'clans'
B. where there was access to water that was less limited
Where modifies place ; here it changes the meaning : Incorrect
C. where they had less limited water access
water access is wrong
D. with less limitations on water access
Same as C
E. having less limitations to water access
Same as C
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A it is.

It's a good question.

Limitations - countable noun and hence usage of "less" is incorrect, correct usage is "few"

Where - is used to modify actual physical locations.
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