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Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of Moscow.

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of
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12 Jan 2019, 01:48
Dear Experts,
I answered E, this choise seems to me correct, I couldn't notice any error, but not sure about "even"...
I rejected B because of "-" dash...
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I answered E, this choise seems to me correct, I couldn't notice any error, but not sure about "even"...
I rejected B because of "-" dash...

Hi GKomoku
In B, "those" indicates "stations". The "even those located" placed closed to "stations" because it try to means "railway stations", actually. So, use of "even those located" near to "stations" perfectly makes sense.

E says:
"the timetables use Moscow time" ---> it's an active voice. Here "timetables" is used as "doer". Really it can do something? Nope. Timetables are NOT the animal/human-being that it can do something in this planet. So, you can safely cross out E for the wrong use of active voice.
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12 Jan 2019, 03:58
Hi GKomoku
In B, "those" indicates "stations". The "even those located" placed closed to "stations" because it try to means "railway stations", actually. So, use of "even those located" near to "stations" perfectly makes sense.

E says:
"the timetables use Moscow time" ---> it's an active voice. Here "timetables" is used as "doer". Really it can do something? Nope. Timetables are NOT the animal/human-being that it can do something in this planet. So, you can safely cross out E for the wrong use of active voice.
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Thank you for your help, now things are clear
So I can infer...

A) Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of
(is out as explained above, "those" is demostrative pronouns should be followed the noun it modifiys, or as close as pissible to it - "timetable" is too far)

B) Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of.

C) The timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from
(same mistake as explained)

D) MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from
(two IC connected with "-" dash is incorrect)

E) At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of
(same mistake as explained)
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Updated on: 12 Jan 2019, 05:00
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Hi GKomoku
In B, "those" indicates "stations". The "even those located" placed closed to "stations" because it try to means "railway stations", actually. So, use of "even those located" near to "stations" perfectly makes sense.

E says:
"the timetables use Moscow time" ---> it's an active voice. Here "timetables" is used as "doer". Really it can do something? Nope. Timetables are NOT the animal/human-being that it can do something in this planet. So, you can safely cross out E for the wrong use of active voice.
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Thank you for your help, now things are clear
So I can infer...

A) Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of
(is out as explained above, "those" is demostrative pronouns should be followed the noun it modifiys, or as close as pissible to it - "timetable" is too far)

D) MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables [color=#ff0000]-
even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from
(two IC connected with "-" dash is incorrect)

In A, "those" is used as "stations". The "railway stations" should be as closet as "those"
In D, There is no problem using "dash" middle of the 2 independent clauses. It depends on the meaning of the sentence. If the sentence demands then you can use "dash" in 2 independent clauses. But, unfortunately, there is no use of 2 independent clauses in D.

Using "those" closed to "timetables" makes the sentence confusing.
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Originally posted by Asad on 12 Jan 2019, 04:08.
Last edited by Asad on 12 Jan 2019, 05:00, edited 2 times in total.
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Updated on: 12 Jan 2019, 05:44

A) Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of
(is out as explained above, "those" is demostrative pronouns should be followed the noun it modifiys, or as close as pissible to it - "timetable" is too far)

D) MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables [color=#ff0000]-
even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from
(two IC connected with "-" dash is incorrect)

In A, "those" is used as "stations". The "railway stations" should be as closet as "those"
In D, There is no problem using "dash" middle of the 2 independent clause. Using "those" closed to "timetables" makes the sentence confusing.
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A) Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of
(is out as explained above timetables-use, "those" is demostrative pronouns should be followed the noun it modifiys, or as close as pissible to it - "railway stations" is too far)

C) The timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from
(same mistake as explained)

D) MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from
("those locataions" has to be as close to "railway stations to make meaning clear)

E) At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of
(same mistake as explained)

as in (C) and (D) dash "-" between 2 IC is fine?
seems fine...
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Originally posted by GKomoku on 12 Jan 2019, 04:28.
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Could you take a look in the previous post, please?
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(A), (C) and (E) are incorrect because "Timetables...use Moscow time" doesn't make sense. Moscow time is used for timetables is the correct meaning!
(D) is incorrect because the pronoun "those" refers to the noun railway stations, which is unnecessarily far away from the pronoun "those".
Hence (B) is the correct answer!
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Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of Moscow.

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of

There seems to be a Subject-Verb error in the relative clause in E, in addition to the incompatibility of subject and verb in the main clause i.e. timetables & use incongruous.

".....even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones...". Plural subject and singular verb.
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Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of Moscow.

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of

Hi,

Although B is the best of the lot, I feel the clause after dash shouldve read - even 'at' those...

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I agree. IMO, that is a grave error.
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Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of Moscow.

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of - WRONG. 'Timetables' is plural subject here and 'for' used should be replaced with 'at' to make more sense. Also the IC after semicolon talks about 'those located' .. what 'those' ..!! Timetables as per sentence but meaning-wise it loses then. Finally, it seems the second sentence stopped midway.

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of - CORRECT. 'Moscow Time' is singular subject here. Again 'those located' ideally should used be for stations or 'timetable' not 'Moscow time' but since dash is used after stations i left the the thought of ideal sentence/meaning because it made sense.

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from - WRONG. 'The Timetables' is plural subject here. After dash the word 'locations' introduces a new element in the sentence and using 'are' the meaning becomes more complex to figure out. Is it for 'locations' or 'Timetables'. Hence eliminated this one.

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from - WRONG. If 'MOSCOW Time' is subject here, 'even in those locations' after dash would have made sense without usage of word 'area' which seems to cause redundancy here.

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of - WRONG. Again 'the timetables' is plural subject here. Also as with the case in 'D' above, areas and locations cause. Nonetheless part of sentence after 'Magadan' is wordy where better versions are available in other options.

Though i chose correct answer as 'B', i was not fully satisfied with my evaluation. Can anyone suggest whether thought process for points 'C', 'D' and 'E' is right.?
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Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of Moscow.

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of

Hi,

Although B is the best of the lot, I feel the clause after dash should've read - even 'at' those...

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The point I have here is, also a question to daagh, doesn't the '-' indicate that whatever follows will be a modifier of the immediately preceeding noun, which over here is 'all stations' ?
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Is it always true that a dash (-) modifies only the adjacent preceding noun?
Because in case of "which", which can modify the preceding or other nouns in the preceding clause depending on context and meaning.
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An em dash is equivalent to a comma. But when a comma is placed before a modifier, the purpose of the comma is to prevent the modifier from modifying the noun before . You might recall verb+ing modifiers if not separated by a comma modify the noun they are touching but when separated by a comma, a distant noun such as the subject and the subject's action

With this concept in mind, let us visit each of the choices.

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Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of Moscow.

A. Timetables for all Russian railway stations use Moscow time; even those located in such-flung locales as magadan are eight time zones east of -. The semi colon here must lead to an IC that is at least somewhat related the first part. Here there seems to be a disconnect between the two ICs. This is a meaning error. But the idiom 'to take off' is an acceptable one to other idioms such as 'east from' or 'to east of"

B. Moscow time is used for timetables at all Russian railway stations - even those located in such far- flung areas as Magadan, eight time zones east of -- Here what follows the dash is a true modifier modifying the entire previous clause . This is the correct choice.

C. the timetables use Moscow time at all Russian railway stations- even though locations in such far-flung areas as magadan are eight time zones east from. 1. Here, the second part is a DC. We do not normally separate a DC in the second half by a dash or comma. 2. 'east from' is bad idiom.

D. MOSCOW time is used at Russian railway stations for all timetables - even those locations in areas as far-flung as magadan, eight time zones to east from -- The modifier after the dash is not worded properly. It should be ' even at those locations' to maintain prepositional parallelism. In addition, time zones 'to east from' Moscow is bad idiom.

E. At all Russian railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time even in locations that are in such far-flung areas as Magadan, which is eight time zones to the east of -- another case of bad idiom' to the east of'. It is also weird to say that at all Railway stations, the timetables use Moscow time. The correct version would be to use a passive voice as in 'Moscow time is used for all timetables.'

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