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An easy way to see whether or not a modifier is ambiguos is to see whether or not the modifier could be mistaken for modifying something else. For example in the sentence "The men danced with the women, and they enjoyed it", "they" is ambiguous because it could be modifying "men" or "women". Think about it this way: if someone who is just starting to learn English could mistake a word for modifying different parts of a sentence, the modifier is probably ambiguous.

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But still folks why (B) isn't the answer????

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The modifier is ambiguous :) It needs to modify 1 thing clearly, and here it is not clear, because the -ing modifier can modify either the noun in front or the noun behind it


Great then why not (A).

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(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
This choice is wrong due to incorrect use of "them". It clearly doesn't refer to "book illustrations".

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(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
This choice is wrong due to incorrect use of "them". It clearly doesn't refer to "book illustrations".
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Why do you think "them" is ambiguous in its placement."Them" has an antecedent "illustrations".
On the contrary I do not consider it ambiguous .

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Hi IanSolo,

This is one of those OG problems in which the explanation is not a good one and is confusing at best. B and C are close answer choices.

I guess you must have identified that C is clearly the best option without any ambiguity. But confused by the OG explanation.

Let us consider (B)

The clear error in (B) is them. If we take them as illustrations then the sentence would mean that Beatrix Potter coordinated "the book illustrations" in the book illustrations. This does not make any sense.

Moreover, even if you consider the phrase "coordinating them...." modifying the next clause "Beatrix Potter capitalized....". It contextually sounds illogical, Beatrix Potter cannot develop develop love for nature by coordinating her illustrations.

The not so good thing about this problem is that you can not generalize the error. You would be better off if you just remember it as a specific pattern of error on GMAT. Furthermore, this also one of these questions in which POE is not the best way to go. Just mark the clearly identifiable answer choice and move ahead.

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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

This question is all about Noun Modifiers

If we recall the rules : The touch principle- the modifier must touch the noun unless in few exceptional cases..


(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
carefully coordinating them is awkward, and irregular structure i must say (the use of tenses )
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
the use of present progressive tense coordinating is wrong whilst using simple past in 'capitalized' in the next part of the sentence
this structure is making it sound as if while coordinating one thing the capitalized on other but the meaning conveyed must be - she coordinated, capitalized

(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
as explained above, right tense, touch rule of noun modifier is also satisfied
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
use of with is wrong, she didn't coordinate with her narratives, she coordinated her narratives with her illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and
use of them is incorrect


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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and

I would like to understand the modifier rule that is being tested with this question. Also I am interested to know why B is wrong ?


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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

Notice the placement of "verb-ing" modifier "coordinating". This modifier is certainly acting as a noun modifier here and not as a clause modifier. So it should modify the preceding noun entity. In this case, it is book illustrations. But we know that that the action of coordinating has been done by Potter. Hence, the verb-ing modifier "coordinating" must be placed closer to Potter.
The way the original sentence is written, coordinating cannot jump over "in her book illustrations".

Choice B repeats the same error. Placement of "coordinating" is such that it fails to refer to Potter.

Compare these two choice to the correct answer choice C that clearly conveys the intended meaning of the sentence.

The usage of Verb-ing Modifiers has been covered in excruciating details in the "Modifiers - Verb-ing" Concept in the Level 1 Preview Concepts. This section is available for free. Just login to e-gmat.com, register for free and learn the concept.
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Shraddha,

In choice A why is coordinating not referring to Potter. The prep phrase in her book illustrations is in comma pair so in that case, why cant we say coordinating refers to Potter?
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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and

I would like to understand the modifier rule that is being tested with this question. Also I am interested to know why B is wrong ?


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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

Notice the placement of "verb-ing" modifier "coordinating". This modifier is certainly acting as a noun modifier here and not as a clause modifier. So it should modify the preceding noun entity. In this case, it is book illustrations. But we know that that the action of coordinating has been done by Potter. Hence, the verb-ing modifier "coordinating" must be placed closer to Potter.
The way the original sentence is written, coordinating cannot jump over "in her book illustrations".

Choice B repeats the same error. Placement of "coordinating" is such that it fails to refer to Potter.

Compare these two choice to the correct answer choice C that clearly conveys the intended meaning of the sentence.

The usage of Verb-ing Modifiers has been covered in excruciating details in the "Modifiers - Verb-ing" Concept in the Level 1 Preview Concepts. This section is available for free. Just login to e-gmat.com, register for free and learn the concept.
You can also go through our one of the most appreciated articles on the same topic by clicking at the link below:
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A handy thing to remember is that GMAT does not like two modifiers "back to back", since GMAT considers this as too much separation between the subject and the main verb.

In A, "in her book illustrations" and "carefully coordinating them with her narratives" are both (at least intended to be) modifying "Beatrix Potter", and the main verb "capitalized" comes only after these two modifiers. Not a great construct.

Q#104 OG12:

El Niño, the periodic abnormal warming of the sea surface off Peru, a phenomenon in which...

Again two modifiers following El Niño...not good.

Q#106 OG13 option B:

Originally developed for ..., having the ability to ..., a technique

Again two modifiers before the subject "a technique" is introduced...not good.
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I will be happy to provide detailed response to this question, but before that I would like to see your thought process for this one. This will help me pin point the gaps in your application of concepts and process.
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I will be happy to provide detailed response to this question, but before that I would like to see your thought process for this one. This will help me pin point the gaps in your application of concepts and process.



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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and


Per the question and what I understood- option B appears correct to me as 'verb-ing' modifier 'coordinating ' modifies the subject of the following clause i.e. modifies Beatrix Potter (and also the 'verb-ing' modifier 'coordinating' is placed correctly in the beginning of a clause followed by a comma.

Whereas,option C is fine but not concise like option B,I guess...

For rest of the options-no issue with the fact that they're wrong.

Now please help me understand where I went wrong :(
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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

Let’s first understand the meaning of the original sentence.
1. Beatrix Potter (BP) carefully coordinated her book illustrations with her narratives
2. BP capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world in her book illustrations.

Now let’s figure out the errors in the original sentence.
BP, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating... - The phrase "in her book illustrations" is separated by a comma pair, so for all intents and purposes, this is an additional part of sentence that is connected to the sentence using this comma pair. So let’s ignore this part for a while for our analysis of modifiers.

BP carefully coordinating...Now the verb-ing modifier appears to modify BP. And this modification appears to be ok. Now let’s look at the pronoun “them”. We will check the sentence by replacing 'them' with its antecedent - book illustrations:

Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating her book illustrations with her narratives...

Notice how "her book illustrations" is repeated, making the sentence non-sensical. It now implies that BP carefully coordinated her book illustrations with her narratives in her book illustrations.

Furthermore, let’s now discuss the role of “in her book illustrations”. What does this prepositional phrase modifier modify? Logically it should modify the verb “capitalized” but its placement and usage is such that it appears to modify the action represented by the verb-ing “coordinating”.

So this is what is wrong with choice A.

Now let’s move to choice B:
In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter…
This choice also has same pronoun issue as choice A does. If I were to write this choice without the use of pronoun “them”, this is how I would do it:
Carefully coordinating her book illustrations with her narratives in her book illustrations, Beatrix Potter….
So overall, it’s the use of “them” that makes this sentence non-sensical since it ends up implying that BP coordinated her book illustrations in her book illustrations.

Choice C corrects this issue:
In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
In this choice, the pronoun is no longer there. Also, the prepositional phrase “in her book illustrations” correctly modifies the action “capitalized”.

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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

Let’s first understand the meaning of the original sentence.
1. Beatrix Potter (BP) carefully coordinated her book illustrations with her narratives
2. BP capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world in her book illustrations.

Now let’s figure out the errors in the original sentence.
BP, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating... - The phrase "in her book illustrations" is separated by a comma pair, so for all intents and purposes, this is an additional part of sentence that is connected to the sentence using this comma pair. So let’s ignore this part for a while for our analysis of modifiers.

BP carefully coordinating...Now the verb-ing modifier appears to modify BP. And this modification appears to be ok. Now let’s look at the pronoun “them”. We will check the sentence by replacing 'them' with its antecedent - book illustrations:

Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating her book illustrations with her narratives...

Notice how "her book illustrations" is repeated, making the sentence non-sensical. It now implies that BP carefully coordinated her book illustrations with her narratives in her book illustrations.

Furthermore, let’s now discuss the role of “in her book illustrations”. What does this prepositional phrase modifier modify? Logically it should modify the verb “capitalized” but its placement and usage is such that it appears to modify the action represented by the verb-ing “coordinating”.

So this is what is wrong with choice A.

Now let’s move to choice B:
In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter…
This choice also has same pronoun issue as choice A does. If I were to write this choice without the use of pronoun “them”, this is how I would do it:
Carefully coordinating her book illustrations with her narratives in her book illustrations, Beatrix Potter….
So overall, it’s the use of “them” that makes this sentence non-sensical since it ends up implying that BP coordinated her book illustrations in her book illustrations.

Choice C corrects this issue:
In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
In this choice, the pronoun is no longer there. Also, the prepositional phrase “in her book illustrations” correctly modifies the action “capitalized”.

Let me know if this helps.

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Hello Payal,
Can you please break option E and help us understand the error in E)
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and

BP
1) Carefully coordinated
2) Capitalized

Both can be emphasized right ?
Is it always that using them is wrong ?
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1) Carefully coordinated
2) Capitalized

Both can be emphasized right ?
Is it always that using them is wrong ?


Apart from the incorrect sentence construction (and usage of "them"), the other main issue with E is meaning. As you pointed out, the two verbs introduce a list of actions:
1) coordinated AND 2) capitalized.
However, the meaning of the sentence is such that these two actions should act as cause and effect and not be made parallel. Essentially, the logical meaning should be that BP capitalized (effect) because she coordinated (cause) ....
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Glad that it helped...Oh yes, this is definitely a 700+ level question. Debayan, there isn't a new approach that needs to be followed for 700+ level questions. As long as you approach SC in a consistent manner, focusing on the meaning and the errors of the original sentence before reviewing the choices, you will do well.
In this one as well, you had to first understand the intended meaning of the original choice. Then determine the errors. In terms of errors pronoun and modifier were a problem. Now after you realized that you needed to look at the choices and eliminate the choices that contained similar errors. And then see if the remaining choices introduced some new errors. Finally get to your correct answer.
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Glad that it helped...Oh yes, this is definitely a 700+ level question. Debayan, there isn't a new approach that needs to be followed for 700+ level questions. As long as you approach SC in a consistent manner, focusing on the meaning and the errors of the original sentence before reviewing the choices, you will do well.
In this one as well, you had to first understand the intended meaning of the original choice. Then determine the errors. In terms of errors pronoun and modifier were a problem. Now after you realized that you needed to look at the choices and eliminate the choices that contained similar errors. And then see if the remaining choices introduced some new errors. Finally get to your correct answer.
Sorry for not being able to provide any magic bullet. Consistency, hard work, and practice is the key!!

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Does any1 observe a parallelism in the sentence. How is it not satified in D?


Hi subhojyoti.

There are two problems with D:

D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

1) "carefully coordinated.." should modify "book illustrations". However, there is "Beatrix Potter" in the middle, the Verb-ed modifier seems modify "Beatrix Potter". => The sentence is fragmented.

2) If you read carefully, you see there is NO comma after "in her book illustrations" ==> The sentence is quite not grammatical.: ....Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations capitalized..................

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IMHO OG correctly explained it

Th is sentence awkwardly presents two phrases
intended to modify Beatrix Potter and loses the
clarity and logic of the meaning.
In the original
sentence, these modifiers sound choppy and
create too much separation between the subject,
Beatrix Potter, and the verb capitalized. Beginning
the sentence with In her book illustrations and
following that phrase with the relative clause
which she carefully coordinated with her narratives
allows the subject, Beatrix Potter, to be united
with the verb, capitalized, for a stronger main
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162. Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.
(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and




As per OG in A & B How "carefully coordinating illogically modifies illustrations" ?
to modify illustration it should be followed by without a comma.
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Thanks for posting your query here. :-)

In this sentence, since there is no clause preceding the verb -ing modifier, the phrase 'carefully coordinating them with her narratives' is modifying the prepositional phrase 'in her book illustrations'. Hence, the modification is illogical.

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Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and

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My question: according to OG explanation, B is wrong because phrase 'carefully coordinating....' illogically modifies the noun that immediately precedes it 'book illustrations'. But i disagree with this explanation and my understanding is, phrase 'carefully coordinating...' modifies Beatrix Potter because its' Beatrix Potter who 'coordinating', not 'illustrations' do, hence answer choice B is correct. What's wrong with my understanding ? can somebody shed the light ?
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A - Incorrect - them is ambigous
B - Incorrect - wrong placement of modifiers
C - Correct
D - Incorrect - Beatrix Potter was not Carefully coordinated
E - Incorrect - them is ambigous


Can anybody explain me how is them in option A ambiguous. According to me, there is only 1 plural noun illustrations.
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Re: Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them   [#permalink] 25 Nov 2013, 23:51

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